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Playstation All-Stars Is No Super Smash Bros. Brawl, Itís Better

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Runa216 said:
happydolphin said:

I actually really liked that review. Didn't realize that was you.

See?  I'm capable of spewing things of value from time to time.

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The article lost me at "a game that was hamstrung by the creator’s desire to spite a portion of his fans." From there, I couldn't remotely relate to this guy.



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F0X said:

The article lost me at "a game that was hamstrung by the creator’s desire to spite a portion of his fans." From there, I couldn't remotely relate to this guy.

There is some kind of resentment of Sakurai, and it isn't completely misplaced, though I agree that to call it spite is a big shift in blame. Lack of openness maybe, but spite is a strong way to say it, even most probably wrong.

But there is a basis in reality there, metaknight is overpowered, and it's know that that's Sakurai's pet character.



happydolphin said:
F0X said:

The article lost me at "a game that was hamstrung by the creator’s desire to spite a portion of his fans." From there, I couldn't remotely relate to this guy.

There is some kind of resentment of Sakurai, and it isn't completely misplaced, though I agree that to call it spite is a big shift in blame. Lack of openness maybe, but spite is a strong way to say it, even most probably wrong.

But there is a basis in reality there, metaknight is overpowered, and it's know that that's Sakurai's pet character.


Some basis. In reality, SSB is not meant to be about practiced combos or anything but bringing out the ab-lib nature of fighting (Sakurai has said as much). So articles like this tells me that he's doing a good job of flaunting fighting game convention. Those who want something else can go play a less interesting fighting game like PSABR.



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F0X said:

Some basis. In reality, SSB is not meant to be about practiced combos or anything but bringing out the ab-lib nature of fighting (Sakurai has said as much). So articles like this tells me that he's doing a good job of flaunting fighting game convention. Those who want something else can go play a less interesting fighting game like PSABR.

That's the thing, it isn't one or the other. I can't judge PSABR because I haven't gotten my hands on it yet, but if you find it uninteresting because of balance, then what about a balanced game that is also interesting?

If two new players pick up the controller, one picks metaknight the other link, odds are that one is going to have less fun in losing all the time.



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cunger said:

I'm a huge Smash Bros fan and I also a huge fan of classic style fighters like Street Fighter IV, Tekken, Soul Calibur, and DOA. So please tell me why I should play this game instead of those? I play Smash Bros because it is unique and fun and filled with Nintendo history. I play classic fighters when I want my tactile fighting fix. If I don't care about Sony mascots what is my reason for spending 60 bucks on this game?

So what you're saying is that you play Smash Bros just because it's full of Nintendo history?  I play Smash Bros because it's a fun game, not because I like the characters.  

Playstation All Stars as well as Super Smash Bros would still be good games whether they were full of character mascots or not.  First time you ever played a Street Fighter, Soul Calibur, Tekken, DoA, etc, did you play the games because the game sold you based on a character from another franchise?  Maybe Soul Calibur, but otherwise, no.  These characters might come from a wide range of games, but that doesn't mean because you don't know of the characters it's not something worth playing.  If you've never played any of these games, then just like Bloody Roar(listing a game you didn't list,) it's like playing a new IP with unique characters.

King of Fighters '94 and all future titles is a series based on characters from thier other series.  Maybe people shouldn't have bought into that series because they never played the games they were based from.  What you're saying in your quote is the exact same thing.



As a huge Sony fan, I disagree. All stars is some good fun, and I am really excited about how the franchise will change up and improve with sequels. However, nothing, NOTHING, will ever surpass my super smash bros.



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happydolphin said:
F0X said:

Some basis. In reality, SSB is not meant to be about practiced combos or anything but bringing out the ab-lib nature of fighting (Sakurai has said as much). So articles like this tells me that he's doing a good job of flaunting fighting game convention. Those who want something else can go play a less interesting fighting game like PSABR.

That's the thing, it isn't one or the other. I can't judge PSABR because I haven't gotten my hands on it yet, but if you find it uninteresting because of balance, then what about a balanced game that is also interesting?

If two new players pick up the controller, one picks metaknight the other link, odds are that one is going to have less fun in losing all the time.


I'm not speaking specifically of balance, but your assumption that Meta Knight is so overpowered that he's an instant win even to a novice is ridiculous. Ultimately this is the kind of thing that has a much bigger impact on high-level competitive play than anything else. As for why I think PSABR is less interesting, it's because it caters more towards a small minority I'm not a part of. Not saying I wouldn't enjoy it as something similar to SSB, but it doesn't appeal to me as much. A whole different philosophy is at play.



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This thread will only stir the pot.

Cause clearly:
- Sony fans will like their tweaked clone.
- NIntendo fans will like their smash.

In anycase 95% of those people will never play both, so they won't have a genuine comparission. And even majority of the 5% who do play both, will still side with their console of choice.



 

 

Cobretti2 said:
This thread will only stir the pot.

Cause clearly:
- Sony fans will like their tweaked clone.
- NIntendo fans will like their smash.

In anycase 95% of those people will never play both, so they won't have a genuine comparission. And even majority of the 5% who do play both, will still side with their console of choice.

I'm pretty sure 95% of the peoiple in question have already played some form of Smash Bros.