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gergroy said:


How can his opinion of somebody elses opinion be wrong?


Because it doesn't make sense. The OP is giving his opinion based on how he feels. You cannot say that his opinion is wrong. In what way can it be wrong? 

An opinion cannot be wrong unless that opinion  says someone else's opinion is wrong. There, anymore questions?



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People attacking the thread creator rather than giving valid reasons for why his views could be wrong. Not just that, but attacking people who have nothing to do with the thread.

Quite the behavior I must say. He has already admitted that he has no issue with anyone here paying. He just wishes you could get it without having to pay.

Some people need to lighten up. It's not that serious.



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riderz13371 said:
slowmo said:
Pretty sure you experienced neither Party chat or Netflix on the 360 5 years ago which basically makes your opinion worth jack shit as you are unable to quantify objectively how it compares to the service offered by the PS3. How is this baiting thread still open when this whining has been done to death already in hundreds of threads.

Please release some games soon Sony and give your bored fans something to do with their time instead of hating on superior products...

Party Chat - Talk to friends while they play other games

Netflix - Same as on PS3 and Wii. What's the difference other than paying twice?

All these articles are justifiable. Dude listen I could care less if you spend your money paying for xbox live. More power to you. I just feel really bad that Microsoft is getting away with it. Don't bring in the Sony vs Microsoft vs Nintendo shit in here. As I said I was writing this in a gamers perspective, not a fanboy perspective. 


Last year when PSN was down I could still watch Netflix on my 360.  You cannot have an objective debate when you ignore the fact that by paying for Live you get benefits such as a superior anti cheat policy, better more reliable infrastructure, gold accounts cost money so people are less likely to misbehavior.  You're also paying for all the extra services to be linked through in a more seamless experience. You brought the PS3 into this not me....

 



slowmo said:
riderz13371 said:
slowmo said:
Pretty sure you experienced neither Party chat or Netflix on the 360 5 years ago which basically makes your opinion worth jack shit as you are unable to quantify objectively how it compares to the service offered by the PS3. How is this baiting thread still open when this whining has been done to death already in hundreds of threads.

Please release some games soon Sony and give your bored fans something to do with their time instead of hating on superior products...

Party Chat - Talk to friends while they play other games

Netflix - Same as on PS3 and Wii. What's the difference other than paying twice?

All these articles are justifiable. Dude listen I could care less if you spend your money paying for xbox live. More power to you. I just feel really bad that Microsoft is getting away with it. Don't bring in the Sony vs Microsoft vs Nintendo shit in here. As I said I was writing this in a gamers perspective, not a fanboy perspective. 


Last year when PSN was down I could still watch Netflix on my 360.  You cannot have an objective debate when you ignore the fact that by paying for Live you get benefits such as a superior anti cheat policy, better more reliable infrastructure, gold accounts cost money so people are less likely to misbehavior.  You're also paying for all the extra services to be linked through in a more seamless experience. You brought the PS3 into this not me....

 


You could still watch Netflix when PsN was down. Not sure how it works now, but back then it wasn't required to be logged into PSN.



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kowenicki said:


So if someone says in my opinion I feel like I can fly... hey I might just try jumping of a building.  I cant say you're wrong?


A persons ability is not subjective. A person view on Microsoft's business strategy as a gamer, is subjective.



Euphoria14 said:
People attacking the thread creator rather than giving valid reasons for why his views could be wrong. Not just that, but attacking people who have nothing to do with the thread.

Quite the behavior I must say. He has already admitted that he has no issue with anyone here paying. He just wishes you could get it without having to pay.

Some people need to lighten up. It's not that serious.

 


What so he can play on the 360 he supposedly sold 5 years ago.  Look at his Sig then read the Op again, nobody insulted him they said his points were garbage, but then we already know that having had this discussion in hundreds of threads already (making this thread on dubious ground imo).



Euphoria14 said:
slowmo said:
riderz13371 said:
slowmo said:
Pretty sure you experienced neither Party chat or Netflix on the 360 5 years ago which basically makes your opinion worth jack shit as you are unable to quantify objectively how it compares to the service offered by the PS3. How is this baiting thread still open when this whining has been done to death already in hundreds of threads.

Please release some games soon Sony and give your bored fans something to do with their time instead of hating on superior products...

Party Chat - Talk to friends while they play other games

Netflix - Same as on PS3 and Wii. What's the difference other than paying twice?

All these articles are justifiable. Dude listen I could care less if you spend your money paying for xbox live. More power to you. I just feel really bad that Microsoft is getting away with it. Don't bring in the Sony vs Microsoft vs Nintendo shit in here. As I said I was writing this in a gamers perspective, not a fanboy perspective. 


Last year when PSN was down I could still watch Netflix on my 360.  You cannot have an objective debate when you ignore the fact that by paying for Live you get benefits such as a superior anti cheat policy, better more reliable infrastructure, gold accounts cost money so people are less likely to misbehavior.  You're also paying for all the extra services to be linked through in a more seamless experience. You brought the PS3 into this not me....

 


You could still watch Netflix when PsN was down. Not sure how it works now, but back then it wasn't required to be logged into PSN.


Thank you, never tried it at the time as my PS3 was not being updated at that time



I hate the argument with the Apps. No one is buying an Xbox to watch Netflix as the number 1 reason to get it. Netflix is an app/service that Xbox Live Gold members get to use. So please stop using that baseless argument.

If Sony started charging for their online service will you pay it so you can play online? Because if you do you and everyone else who has complained over the years then become hypocrites.



slowmo said:
Euphoria14 said:
People attacking the thread creator rather than giving valid reasons for why his views could be wrong. Not just that, but attacking people who have nothing to do with the thread.

Quite the behavior I must say. He has already admitted that he has no issue with anyone here paying. He just wishes you could get it without having to pay.

Some people need to lighten up. It's not that serious.

 


What so he can play on the 360 he supposedly sold 5 years ago.  Look at his Sig then read the Op again, nobody insulted him they said his points were garbage, but then we already know that having had this discussion in hundreds of threads already (making this thread on dubious ground imo).

It's easy to just avoid the thread then.

I agree with wishing gold was free but I know it's not, so I don't comment. Live Id is Euphoria14 and I have around 7-8,000 gamerscore. Sold my 360 only because MS changed focus from the early days of heavy JRpG support.

The attacks btw were people saying that he and Sony fans are bored and desperate. No idea why they are though since they have Bo2, Ac3 & a bunch of other high quality titles.

It just kills any discussion if there was indeed discussion to be had.



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