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Will the Xbox 720 be able to do 4K HD? This is the question that comes to my mind every time I think of the next Xbox: Will it be able to do 4K in movies and also will it be able to do 4K resolution in games? With the rumours going round about Sony’s next-gen console code name: PlayStation Orbis (technically we can call it PlayStation 4), being able to do this and also do 3D gaming at 60fps you would guess that we will start hearing rumours about Microsoft’s next-gen console’s capabilities in this department but that is not the case. At least not at the moment.

Ultra HD or 4K HD is definitely going to become the next standard in TV resolution. Ultra HD is the name picked for naming TVs that are of resolution of at least 3840 x 2160. This TVs also have the aspect ratio of at least 16:9. Earlier this year at the Consumer Electronic Show (CES) a lot of Ultra HD TVs were on display from many of the brand leaders including Samsung, LG and Sony (just to name a few). And just recently a new line of Sony 84-inch Ultra HD Bravia set:  Bravia 84X900 was unveiled to the public with a hefty price tag of $25,000. While many will argue that 4K is still not needed and are still very expensive I don’t see why it will not become main stream in a few years from now.

When the Xbox 360 first came out it was able to support HD gaming as well as standard definition for older TVs, but was not able to do 3D gaming. But eventually it supported 3D gaming just like the PS3. So, the question is: Will the Xbox next/Xbox 720 support 4K resolution in games and how can they do this without breaking the system? Drop you comment on this if you have anything news worthy or just a rumour to share on this.




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As I said on N4G:

Movies? maybe.
Games? No way José. No chance Lance. Never Trevor.

Thanks! DP2002 ( n4g username)

That is not my N4G username.

"Microsoft is not good at the game of capitalism. They don't believe in naturally being better than their opponents. They create artificial advantages [content] to even pose a threat."

S.T.A.G.E criticises Microsoft.

HDTVs were first introduced in the mid 1990s and became a mainstream product in 2009/2010 ... It wouldn't make sense to support 4K resolution until (probably) nearly 2020, so I would say no

Ultimately, if I was Microsoft I would probably focus on 720p. They could probably produce a healthy bump in visuals by using a GPU like the Radeon 7870m while keeping costs and power consumption (relatively) reasonable as long as they didn't go crazy with trying to push the resolution.

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I really doubt it, high end PCs would even have a heart attack running games at that resolution. Unless they are planning on making games look as crusty as NES games I just can't see it running games at the native 4k resolution

I don't think a system being capable of doing 4K is a big deal. At least for movies, but running games at that resolution seems unlikely.


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The new technology 4K HD is expected to initially be very expensive, so 1080p HD will have to make do for next generation.

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Most modern graphics cards support rendering in that resolution so the only question is if MS is going to support HMDI spec 1.4b or even wait for HDMI 2.0. It all depends on a high speed HDMI port that can output 2160p60 and 1080p60 3D. The currently used 1.4a spec is limited to 2160p24 and 1080p24 3D. The rest is all software upgrades.

HDMI 2.0 will probably be revealed at CES in Januari 8-11

The HDMI forum has been meeting over the past months to determine the direction HDMI should go in the future. The two directions put forth included (a) an improved TMDS 6Gbps per lane proposal backed by Silicon Image and almost all of the TV manufacturers and the (b) Micro-Packet proposal led by Apple, Intel, AMD and others to make use of existing Displayport technology. While it was expected to be a close call between the two, the enhanced TMDS 6Gbps approach outperformed the Micro-Packet path. As of this writing, the enhanced TMDS 6Gbps per lane (18Gbps total) will be the protocol for HDMI 2.0.

In addition to the higher data rate, there are expected to be additional features which may include additional 3D functionality, more than 8 channels of audio, CEC standby and wakeup and more.

Keep in mind this is a specification only and there are few current products that could natively meet all of these new specifications anytime soon. In fact, there are still many features in the current HDMI specification that still have yet to be realized by hardware manufacturers to date. As was the case with 1.3 to 1.4, this new specification will serve as a roadmap to future functionality and it will take some time for the manufacturers and technology to catch up in every day use.

The official HDMI 2.0 specification is expected to be released by the end of 2012 with the CTS compliance testing specification expected in February or March 2013. We will of course keep you posted as we learn more details concerning HDMI 2.0.