Sony PS4 dilemma with PS3 game discs doubt~ I think this is a no brainer!

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forevercloud3000 on 20 November 2012

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I seem to recall a time, after Microsoft had trouble communicating it's backward compatibility plans for the Xbox 360, when Sony gamers were touting the fact that the PS3 had full backward compatibility and how great of a feature it was.

Then Sony dropped the feature and backward compatibility became an unnecessary expense that no one in their right mind needed. Funny thing is now that it's an expensive thing to achieve, Sony is the only one who doesn't offer it. Either on current models or rumored to be on future models.

The problem was Sony was doing FULL BC for the original PS3s, something neither of the other consoles offered. MS on had Xbox games to worry about, yet many of those didn't work, or in further updates would stop working. Unfortunately the PS3's strong BC was due to the emotion engine(PS2) actually being put into it, which was a sizable added cost for the system when everyone was screaming for it to be cheaper. Sony then released a lesser, software emulation model that offered weaker BC for PS2. Then when price needed to go down further they formulated the plan to put some of the most popular titles on PS2 on PSstore or in HD collections. This suited them better cuz then they could make more profit from gamer's desire to still play PS2 stuff. If the demand for lower price wasn't so rabid, PS3 would still have hardware/software emulation.

Going forward Sony most likely will stick to only being BC fully if you have it digitally. They currently have many PS3 titles ready and available for download for this. It makes little since at this point to retain trying to be able to play CDs,DVD,BluRay PS games all at the same time.

Also keep in mind, PS3 only ever loss PS2 compatibility, not PS1 games which you can still to this day pop in ur PS3 and play. I would rebuy my entire PS1/2 game collection for Higher Res graphics and Trophies :)

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Jaywood2010 on 20 November 2012

I think this is a lose lose situation. If they put backwards compatibility in people will complain sony didnt learn from there mistakes because of the high price point.

Then if they don't put it in then you have people complaining because it doesn't have it. I would recommend people to keep the PS3 they own just in case. Also adding my 2 cents but I think it would be smart of them if they added a backwards compatibly peripheral

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Kresnik on 20 November 2012

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If Sony doesn't devise a way for me to play the 20 - 30 PSN games I own/have acquired, I swear I'll never buy another Playstation system nor will I ever set foot or darken the doors of Sony's online store(s).

I don't care if it's built into the PS4 or if it's GAIKAI......But Sony better have the shit I bought and trusted them with, and they better have it ready whenever I get good and ready to play it....yes, I said better.

No offence but - you bought/owned/acquired those PSN games for the system you bought them on. You weren't misled into buying them on the principle that they'd be compatible for a system which at the time may have just been a twinkle in a Sony engineer's eye.

There's no obligation for Sony to make these games available on the next home console, much like there's no obligation for them to make PSP downloads compatible with PS3.

There's an expectation that it should be and many people like yourself feel entitled to it because it's digital content over physical. There may be a point there, but much as an N64 cartridge wouldn't run on a Gamecube, a PS3 digital download may not be compatible with the PS4 without some serious re-jigging. Maybe everything will be compatible, who knows.

Personally, I'd rather have every programmer's effort going into making new content over making everything work, which is why I put up with certain PSP downloads not being compatible with Vita.

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Spazzy_D on 20 November 2012

BasilZero said:

maverick40 said:
Why would you buy a ps4 to play ps3 games??? The mind boggles.

People who may skip a generation might wanna catch up with the next generation system all the games they missed. I'm a great example for this because I never had a PS1 but when I got my PS2 in 2003, I not only bought PS2 games but all of the PS1 games I missed as well.

It is something that attracts certain few people and encourages those who already want the system even more to get it.

My friend did exactly this with the Wii U. He is a decent enough Nintendo fan (Gamecube was his number one system when it was out) but he skipped out on the Wii and mainly gamed on his 360 and PC this gen. He bought a Wii U not only for the promise of future games (and a few launch titles) but also to catch up on Wii games he missed.

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Persistantthug on 20 November 2012

Kresnik said:

Persistantthug said:

If Sony doesn't devise a way for me to play the 20 - 30 PSN games I own/have acquired, I swear I'll never buy another Playstation system nor will I ever set foot or darken the doors of Sony's online store(s).

I don't care if it's built into the PS4 or if it's GAIKAI......But Sony better have the shit I bought and trusted them with, and they better have it ready whenever I get good and ready to play it....yes, I said better.

No offence but - you bought/owned/acquired those PSN games for the system you bought them on. You weren't misled into buying them on the principle that they'd be compatible for a system which at the time may have just been a twinkle in a Sony engineer's eye.

There's no obligation for Sony to make these games available on the next home console, much like there's no obligation for them to make PSP downloads compatible with PS3.

There's an expectation that it should be and many people like yourself feel entitled to it because it's digital content over physical. There may be a point there, but much as an N64 cartridge wouldn't run on a Gamecube, a PS3 digital download may not be compatible with the PS4 without some serious re-jigging. Maybe everything will be compatible, who knows.

Personally, I'd rather have every programmer's effort going into making new content over making everything work, which is why I put up with certain PSP downloads not being compatible with Vita.

Listen buddy,

This has nothing to do with legality or legal obligation, or anything of that kind of sentiment....

This has everything to do with "the customers always right" type sentiment.

Apple makes sure the shit I buy works across generations.....Valve makes sure the shi7 I buy works across generations.....Microsoft will, reportedly, make sure we don't get screwed. Even NINTENDO, as sh177y as their online has been, even they made sure that they take care of the sh17 you buy across generations works too...sloppily...but it works.

If Sony knows what's good for them, they will move heaven and earth to ensure that they aren't the lone fool that fails to ensure mine, and everyone's online stuff works.

If not, then their whole SUPER STORE, SEN/PSN aspirations are gonna go right down the tubes as a laughing stock of the entertainment industry......and rightfully so.

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BuckStud on 20 November 2012

VGKing said:
It doesn't need PS3 B/C.
Who buys a new console to buy last-gen games? Almost no one.
So increasing the costs of the system with B/C is not necessary.

Do you really believe that?!? My entertainment center is filled up with my stereo, PS3, 360 & Wii U. I had to take my Wii out to make room for the Wii U. If the PS4 doesn't play PS3 games, then I wont be buying any new PS3 games once we get fairly close to he launch of the PS4.

Stop hating and start playing.