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Nem said:

What i'd like to see:

FFXIV:ARR release date announced (im hoping beta is already started by then).
FF Type-0 ported and enhanced on the 3DS for worldwide release.
FF Versus XIII renamed as FFXV and released multi-platform.
FFXVI teased and confirmed for next gen (Maybe with Wii U already confirmed as one of the systems).

EDIT: I forgot to add: Lightning Returns FFXIII - Cancelled. Releasing a cg movie on dvd for the end of the story (or just leave it like that really).

Everyone wants to forget FFXIII ever existed, and square should do the same for their own good.

Bolded will likely happen.  Underlined isn't a stretch at all, but the other have about a 0% chance of happening.

Most notably the cancelling of Lightning Returns. Game is almost done.



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outlawauron said:
Nem said:

What i'd like to see:

FFXIV:ARR release date announced (im hoping beta is already started by then).
FF Type-0 ported and enhanced on the 3DS for worldwide release.
FF Versus XIII renamed as FFXV and released multi-platform.
FFXVI teased and confirmed for next gen (Maybe with Wii U already confirmed as one of the systems).

EDIT: I forgot to add: Lightning Returns FFXIII - Cancelled. Releasing a cg movie on dvd for the end of the story (or just leave it like that really).

Everyone wants to forget FFXIII ever existed, and square should do the same for their own good.

Bolded will likely happen.  Underlined isn't a stretch at all, but the other have about a 0% chance of happening.

Most notably the cancelling of Lightning Returns. Game is almost done.


Lightning beeing cancelled and FFXVI are silly requests, that i wish would happen but have little chance.

FFT0 beeing ported i dont think its a strech at all given the situation things are in with the PSP/Vita/Sony and the 3DS beeing the dominating platform on the japanese market that can run the game perfectly. It all depends if Square actually wants to make some money with it or just leave it.



Nem said:
outlawauron said:
Nem said:

What i'd like to see:

FFXIV:ARR release date announced (im hoping beta is already started by then).
FF Type-0 ported and enhanced on the 3DS for worldwide release.
FF Versus XIII renamed as FFXV and released multi-platform.
FFXVI teased and confirmed for next gen (Maybe with Wii U already confirmed as one of the systems).

EDIT: I forgot to add: Lightning Returns FFXIII - Cancelled. Releasing a cg movie on dvd for the end of the story (or just leave it like that really).

Everyone wants to forget FFXIII ever existed, and square should do the same for their own good.

Bolded will likely happen.  Underlined isn't a stretch at all, but the other have about a 0% chance of happening.

Most notably the cancelling of Lightning Returns. Game is almost done.


Lightning beeing cancelled and FFXVI are silly requests, that i wish would happen but have little chance.

FFT0 beeing ported i dont think its a strech at all given the situation things are in with the PSP/Vita/Sony and the 3DS beeing the dominating platform on the japanese market that can run the game perfectly. It all depends if Square actually wants to make some money with it or just leave it.

I don't think Square would bother honestly. They like to spread their resources out among all platforms and have now released 3 3DS games in its short life. (most notably Bravely Defauly ~1 month ago). I imagine we'll see a Bravely Default 2 before we see a Type 0 remake for the 3DS.



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DigitalDevilSummoner said:
Kasz216 said:

Blu-ray has been a huge dissapointment.

Calling it a dissapointment would mean that someone actually expected it to be the new standard in terms of data storage, the way the DVD was.

Was there such a someone?


Or just... that it would be the next new movie standard.  It hasn't gotten there yet when it should of loooong been there.  One has to wonder when it will get there, and by the time it does... it if matters.


No doubt Sony by now expected Blu-ray to be the dominent format by now. 



forevercloud3000 said:
@Dodece
Lol what? I am all but done arguing with you as you obviously have no clue what YOU are talking about. There are far bigger obstacles slowing down BR progress, and it is still expanding. That convo DONE!

SquareEnix is/was market leader when it came to RPGs, and they lost it due to multiple misteps and rooting for the wrong team. Every exclusive game release for 360 was a flop. If not for their acquisitions, they wouldn't even be breaking even. All the money that MS moneyhatted them for games was a total bust in the long run. They...just like you, are too proud to admit that was an utter mistake.convo DONE!

The only reason their fanbase is shrinking is because of what I stated above. They have alienated those who have supported them for so long by playing for MS's gain. In the past, when Square made such a radical change up in their actions (IE switching to PS1), it was for the better, PS1 was more powerful and more capable for the game. This time they have opted to spread themselves so thin that nothing they come out with is filling at all.

This is my last response to you, so flame away

Please. You know I know what I am talking about, and that is what has you scared. I would offer you a counter argument, but you didn't make a argument at all, because there wasn't any kind of argument that you could make that I wouldn't rip to shreds.

They were a market leader at one time, but they lost their edge, because they were mired in traditionalism. This isn't just my opinion a whole slew of Japanese developers have admitted to becoming stagnant. Compared against their Western counterparts. Sometimes failure is about the others guys success. Western developers got leaner by licensing software. Meaner by pushing their narratives in maturer directions, and more adaptable by challenging themselves to do something new. Rather then something that had been done before. In that kind of market place Japanese traditionalism, and corporate culture is out of place when it comes to the wants of modern gamers. We generally don't tolerate a lack of innovation. Their market share is shrinking, because other developers in the genre are doing a better job.

That doesn't mean Japanese studios are destined to die off, but what it does mean is that they are going to have to change the way they do business. That does mean they will have to adopt the best practices of Western developers. That means they are going to have to start licensing engines to reduce their budgets, and to reduce their development times. Something they are starting to do. They will also need to combat design complacency by shuffling up their staff. While it is true a old developer can learn new tricks. It is decidedly hard for them to abandon their entrenched mindsets about what makes for a good game. They are a big part of the problem. Finally they have to be willing to fail, and that is probably the thing that is going to be hardest to do. They will have to be willing to gut treasured ideals to come up with something new.

I have only one thing to say to you, and that is your missusing the word flop. It means something very specific, and shouldn't just be tossed about, because you want to throw a fit. It means to fail completely. When a game flops it means that it failed to generate a profit, and was received poorly by the press, and was recieved poorly by the public. It doesn't need to meet just one of those criteria. It needs to meet them all. A well received game can lose the developer, or the publisher money, and not be a flop. Hell a game could be blasted by everyone, but earn enough from sales to make a profit, and it would not be a flop. The truth is that most of the titles they published were profitable, and most of them got average to good meta reviews. They weren't smash hits, but they were on par for how the genre has fared this generation. Don't use words if you don't know what they mean.

They didn't switch to the PS1, because it was a better machine. They embraced the platform, because it was a far more economical alternative. Nintendo was using a cost prohibitive format on their machine. The medium cost far more then CDs, and Sony was offering buy back on unsold games. It not only reduced the risks involved for third parties. It increased their profit potential. Which would you do, and be honest with yourself. Would you rather spend fifteen dollars on every game you shipped, or as little as two dollars. With a promise that you can get that initial investment back if it doesn't sell. Square is in business to make a  profit. Not to accomodate a nerds fetish. They did what they did to make more money, and to avoid risk. Your acting like they were fucking Sony in a back room somewhere.

You know you are like the second poster I have broken in a week. You do realize this is going to make me more bold, because your stroking my ego. You really are just making my day. Thank you.



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Kasz216 said:


No doubt Sony by now expected Blu-ray to be the dominent format by now.


Kinda doubt that since it is a bit unlikely that they would so blindly ignore tech trends.

But the Blu ray is the new movie standard, every movie on pirate bay is ripped from a blu ray !

What I mean is that the tech trends that changed the market is that big hard drives and broadband connections became the norm. I find it hard to believe Sony didn't see that coming.

Saying that blu ray didn't do as well as the DVD is dissapointment, is like saying the good ol' the PS3 is a dissapointment because PS2, when the market is totally alterted and the competition is different.

 

I would say the diplomatic, the bluray is doing well considering...



Should be multiplat and next gen at this point.



Xbox: Best hardware, Game Pass best value, best BC, more 1st party genres and multiplayer titles. 

 

sales2099 said:
Should be multiplat and next gen at this point.


And what is this point ?

I've already explained how Square always had a FF title for the end of each gen. Gens don't end when the xbox runs out of games you know !

And as about mutliplat, both FFXIII and (especially) FF XIII-2 numbers were not flattering for the 360. And the WiiU is too "young" at this point.

Not to mention Nomura saying they are developing this game for the PS3 in mind.

Maybe this point is that every japanese rpg developer jumbed the 360 ship years ago, the sales where constantly lower and the PS3 is getting an array of exclusive rgps.

Defend yourt statement !



DigitalDevilSummoner said:
sales2099 said:
Should be multiplat and next gen at this point.


And what is this point ?

I've already explained how Square always had a FF title for the end of each gen.

And as about mutliplat, both FFXIII and especially FF XIII-2 numbers were not flattering for the 360. And the WiiU is too "young".

Defend yourt staement !

This point meaning its been in limbo for 6 years. The idea was exciting but now the gen is done and still no concrete details.

Better to upgrade the game graphics and launch it on PS4/next Xbox.Get back some lost buzz.

360 FF13 made a profit and FF13-2 was disapointing sales for both PS3 and 360.



Xbox: Best hardware, Game Pass best value, best BC, more 1st party genres and multiplayer titles. 

 

sales2099 said:
DigitalDevilSummoner said:
sales2099 said:
Should be multiplat and next gen at this point.


And what is this point ?

I've already explained how Square always had a FF title for the end of each gen.

And as about mutliplat, both FFXIII and especially FF XIII-2 numbers were not flattering for the 360. And the WiiU is too "young".

Defend yourt staement !

This point meaning its been in limbo for 6 years. The idea was exciting but now the gen is done and still no concrete details.

Better to upgrade the game graphics and launch it on PS4/next Xbox.Get back some lost buzz.

360 FF13 made a profit and FF13-2 was disapointing sales for both PS3 and 360.


Gens don't end when the xbox runs out of games ! FF IX was out when the PS gen was "done" and FF XII was out when the PS2 era was "done".

With the alleged architecture of the PS4 it would be suicidal to redo an engine developed for the PS3 hardware.

Tell me in what universe 2.7 mil sales of a realistically small production like FF XIII-2 is a dissapointment. Perhaps you have some Square insight to cite ?

Versus gets buzz each time someone in Square farts !

Please go on.