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BluGamer23 said:

Still cant believe there are still people in denial about the vita's vita...

Just today I told my friend who was a huge defender of the vita as he heavily defended it from the start.. and I showed him the example of blackops .. vita's "saviour" that it was DOA.. a massive fail of a game.. and he agreed and finally admitted his huge disappointment of the vita..

It is better to trade it in now guys while the trade-in price is still fairly high... rather than wait longer when it will be worth less.. he traded it in and got his wiiU pre-ordered. LOL .. now in the future IF sony decides to care about it.. he can still buy back a new vita at a cheaper price!.. if not then no big loss to him.. win!

If sony doesnt care .. why should anyone else care about it.


Thats pretty much it. Though its pretty obvious that its not just a "care" issue, but the fact that Sony just doesnt have enough money to face their competitiors. I am actually starting to get quite worried about the PS4 aswell. If Nintendo and Microsoft play a bit of price wars, they will leave Sony in the dust.

Sony seem to be is in a very fragile status. The fact that they dont separate the departments financially is gonna cause all of them to collapse.



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PlaystaionGamer said:
Argh_College said:
haha Vita has no chance agaisnt Iphone and 3ds.

Sony leave the handheld market, not only you arent giving us good games like 3ds but you are also being absolute humiliated by competition.


You annoy me more then any other person on this site, your a mega troll and you never get banned. You clearly hate playstation and voice your ridiculous MS orientated views all overt the place.

why don't you go play halo... Or gears.. Or halo... Or gea.... OR go play on your Microsoft Surface that wil outsell everything by 400,000,000 by the end of tomorrow. 

Mods ban this guy. How long does this actually have to go on? 

Your no better.



JoeTheBro said:

That's how almost every Vita owner feels too (about Vita instead of 3DS of course). For those of us like me that are interested in it, the great games just keep flowing in. The system already is fantastic and Sony has convinced Vita owners that the content just keeps coming, they just need to convince everyone else.

As it stands; Vita = 3DS X 20. Apparently people don't like good games, as sales show. ;)

lol.  Translation: "We Sony/Vita fans have superior taste and that's why we choose Vita over 3DS"

You guys kill me with your elitist attitudes.  Tastes can be different, but they don't have to be hierarchical.  Just makes you come off as a little bitter and defensive, really.



Jumpin said:
kowenicki said:
PlaystaionGamer said:
Argh_College said:
haha Vita has no chance agaisnt Iphone and 3ds.

Sony leave the handheld market, not only you arent giving us good games like 3ds but you are also being absolute humiliated by competition.


You annoy me more then any other person on this site, your a mega troll and you never get banned. You clearly hate playstation and voice your ridiculous MS orientated views all overt the place.

why don't you go play halo... Or gears.. Or halo... Or gea.... OR go play on your Microsoft Surface that wil outsell everything by 400,000,000 by the end of tomorrow. 

Mods ban this guy. How long does this actually have to go on? 


Annnnnnnnnnnd he's gone again.

thats a seriously messed up rant. 

The problem right now is that the whole story around the vita seems like a lie.  Tretton and Sny made a big deal of "console quality gaming on the go". So far COD, FIFA and to a degree AC have undone that statement in a pretty severe way.  The software is lacking, the price is high. How is that supposed to succeed. 

With the help of people who were tricked into thinking this is 20X better than 3DS.

only it is 20x better than the 3DS

and as for Kowen. Remeber it took more than 2 years before the PS3 began to show what it could actully do, judging it on it's first year software seems kinda premature

edit: No other handheld comes within an inch of a mile of provieding the gaming experience Vita is now, but it will take some time before these games are refined to truly shit on the hardware



JoeTheBro said:
BluGamer23 said:

Still cant believe there are still people in denial about the vita's vita...

Just today I told my friend who was a huge defender of the vita as he heavily defended it from the start.. and I showed him the example of blackops .. vita's "saviour" that it was DOA.. a massive fail of a game.. and he agreed and finally admitted his huge disappointment of the vita..

It is better to trade it in now guys while the trade-in price is still fairly high... rather than wait longer when it will be worth less.. he traded it in and got his wiiU pre-ordered. LOL .. now in the future IF sony decides to care about it.. he can still buy back a new vita at a cheaper price!.. if not then no big loss to him.. win!

If sony doesnt care .. why should anyone else care about it.

If you were going for sarcasim or something I'm sorry but it went over my head.

 

If you ment for this to be serious, you are the same type of person that trolls reviews giving zeros. Now I'm not calling you a troll, but I am calling you a liar. Sure many people don't like the Vita but no one with half a brain cell should believe your "friend" went from a huge defender since launch to being disappointed by the system all because you showed him black ops.

lol whut?..  no sarcasm.. you see how I said "Still cant believe there are still people in denial about the vita's vita..." 
you are part of that.. your comment shows it.. obviously COD failing wasnt the only reason he sold it.. like Duuuuuhhhhh no shit man!

It is everything about the vita not enough interesting games has come out of it.. and COD failing was the last thing that pushed him to get rid of it.. he was a huge defender why wouldnt he be?.. he bought the damn thing!.... vita is failing so hard just like the psp-go .. you know it! or are you that thick headed to defend it this far.. even at this point in time when COD/AC is out on it?  

"you are the same type of person that trolls reviews giving zeros."    lol seriously now?.. haha!.. you mean the same type of vita fans that trolls reviews giving COD-vita 9's and 10's .. LOL! hiliarious!



 

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I just have a question about the title of Forbe's article. In order to fall, didn't you need to reach some sort of height in the first place?



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Argh_College said:
haha Vita has no chance agaisnt Iphone and 3ds.

Sony leave the handheld market, not only you arent giving us good games like 3ds but you are also being absolute humiliated by competition.

and it does not have to be , all it has to do is offer another choice to the consumer, selling less than your counterparts is not always the end of a product when if the sales are still great enough that there is still a demand for the product by the retail chain!

unlike the PSPGo the PSVita still has a demand by the retail chain..but..but for how long? right well got news for you and many here the PSVita is not going to be pulled, and there is a very simple reason why. Good or bad Sony cannot Afford to do it.

this is not about the PSVita vs the Nintendo 3DS product when Sony designed the PSVita, it never was it was about the PSVita vs the Smartphone and staying viable against a product that already absorbed another market the dedicated PDA. Sony has had first hand experience with such a problem, 

"The Vita is trying to flex its muscles in a world where the latest smartphones are rivaling it in terms of specs" 

this has more truth than you may think, and this is exactly where Sony has put great thought of the future for its platform's the PSVita is not trying to it is in that market it has to be in  that market and reason being that is where most of the 3rd party developers are going! 

You do know the very same chipsets these ultra high end smartphones have, the PSVita has also, right? if you did not know why sony put that in there, its not mainly about the PSVita vs' the 3ds. 

It was never about that it was the fact that smartphone's just like the Dedicated PDA market the smartphone has absorbed the handheld market and is now the leader in handhelds. 

Not only in sales of the hardware but in the software sales also. while Nintendo and sony have dedicated game handheld systems that are fantastic, make no mistake about this this is not up for debate because it is 100% a fact the smartphone market dwarfs many times over the sales of dedicated game handheld systems in market share many times over. 

That is the blunt truth. even though the Nintendo 3ds sales are fantastic and so is its software sales it pales vs the Smartphone sales of even Sonys xperia brand smartphones! and Sony is not even anywhere near the leader in that market Samsung, apple is far greater and larger, but even still Sony is selling over 7.8 million xperia smartphones per sales quarter! 

the real truth of the matter is the PSVita was set and positioned and set for the smartphone market not the dedicated handheld game market, that is what people are overlooking 

and the reason being is the very fact it is using the same high end SGX GPU and Arm cortex processors that the smartphones are using. Sony unlike Nintendo have been in the handheld market in other ways aside from gaming, that is the dedicated PDA market, they know 1st hand experience what happens. 

This is not about upfront sales with such a platform because right now that is almost a moot point to try to compete in the market the way you use to be able to if your brand strength is not as strong as other brands that is what Sony is facing right now, and that is also exactly what they are positioned to have the greater chance of being able to overcome these hard challenges. 

its not a shocker that Sony made the Playstation suite and that it runs on the xperia and PSVita and other Hardware that is not even Sony made hardware also. its also not out of the bundling of the PSVita with the PS3 as a package to be sold as one bundle soon. 

Sony is not going to drop the PSVita like many seem to think, the reason being they cannot afford too, the PSVita is going to be supported by sony's first party efforts one way or the other, too much investment, good or bad Sony is not going to drop the PSVita anytime soon the reason being is the few profitable parts of Sony as a whole in their company is the playstation part of their company, and less than 10,000 unit sales per week is not very much for some but it is sales, and it will provide profit.Sony will package it with the PS3 before long anyway and that so happens to be the trends in game console hubs being the main option for gameing in the next generation anyway. Nintendo with the WiiU and Microsoft with Smartglass and Windows surface and windows Phone. Sony already is set for such a movement shift. with the PS3 or PS4 and with the PSVita and Xperia line as the mobile connection to the Hub.

many i see just do not look past the real target of what the PSVita was really geard toward and want to keep hammering home the PSVita vs the Nintendo Handheld. do you really think its about that anymore? really? Sony once again per sales Quarter over 7.8 million experia smartphones!! do you really think this is about a market dynamic of maybe 100+ million in about 8 years if you are lucky to obtain that number in the game console market? in 10 months Nintendo sold 19 million 3DS game systems, in 3 months times Sony sold over 21 million xperia smartphones!

Sony is going to bundle the PSVita with the ps3 to challenge the WiiU and Microsofts SmartGlass. bank on it before they even think of pulling this product!



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amp316 said:

I just have a question about the title of Forbe's article. In order to fall, didn't you need to reach some sort of height in the first place?

It's Fall as in Autumn, apparently. A very smart title to come up with a bit more of polemic. 



 

 

 

 

 

haxxiy said:
amp316 said:

I just have a question about the title of Forbe's article. In order to fall, didn't you need to reach some sort of height in the first place?

It's Fall as in Autumn, apparently. A very smart title to come up with a bit more of polemic. 

Well that makes sense then.  Perhaps it will soon it will be the winter of the Vita's discontent. 



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PlaystaionGamer said:
Argh_College said:
haha Vita has no chance agaisnt Iphone and 3ds.

Sony leave the handheld market, not only you arent giving us good games like 3ds but you are also being absolute humiliated by competition.


You annoy me more then any other person on this site, your a mega troll and you never get banned. You clearly hate playstation and voice your ridiculous MS orientated views all overt the place.

why don't you go play halo... Or gears.. Or halo... Or gea.... OR go play on your Microsoft Surface that wil outsell everything by 400,000,000 by the end of tomorrow. 

Mods ban this guy. How long does this actually have to go on? 

Take it easy mate you need to calm down.

Just because Vita isnt the success sony hoped to be doesnt mean Ps4 wont be.