I hardly consider myself the ignorant party in this discussion. Insults aside; it was your intention to raise sympathy and have people look away from Israeli terror actions by posting that image, that much was clear. Its justification. Two wrongs does make a right etc.

Jerusalem for a large portion of its history has not been Jewish, but majority Muslim. Several of the holiest Muslim sites also exist in Jerusalem.

I think having either state have complete control over the Temple Mount and the adjacent holy sites (Al-Aqsa, Dome of the Rock, Wailing Wall) is a recipe for disaster actually and some sort of communual control over them is required.

However East Jerusalem as a city is largely Muslim in populace and is internationally recognised as not being part of Israel.

Perhaps an international city is a solution to the Jerusalem question, but in my opinion it is either that or the city being divided into two. There simply isn't going to be a long term peace that involves Israel having Jerusalem as its undivided capital.

Israel does not have any internationally recognised sovereignity over Palestine. As such the formation of Palestine is not seperatism.

The thing that concerns countries like Russia and Spain is whether self-determination can override sovereignity  - if said sovereignity does not exist (as is the case with Israel/Palestine) then it does not cause concern for those countries.

Everyone should watch this video from the young turks, if you want to see the whole situation in Palestine/ Israel

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sgl0JnE4B_4&feature=g-user-u#

Replying to something else you said actually

The current upgrade that Palestine is seeking can't be vetoed by America (up/down General Assembly vote only), yet i imagine the bulk of third worlders are going to go for it.

That upgrade would grant Palestine the same status as the Vatican City, entitling them access to the International Criminal Court.

There's a reason Israel is scared over this.

Out of all the posts so far I'd have to say I agree with Mr Kahn.

As to what can be done about Israel? If the US stopped supporting them financially and allowed Israel to fight their own fights I think with time things might settle down, but until that time Israel will continue to do what ever they want to the Palestinians knowing that no one can properly retaliate because the US will jump to their aid and bomb who ever does, but this will never happen because most of the richest and most powerful people in the United States are Jewish so they have a say in what goes on. Plus the US needs all the bankers to play ball with them.

The UN should order Bar Refaeli to crash at my place. Then the Middle East will be one step closer to being judenfrei, and tensions will lower as Islamic sphincters across the region relax just a teeny tiny bit.

Baby steps...

I *still* remember her SI Swimsuit issue debut.

Damn...

Again International soverinty is irrelvent, considering the majority of these cases happened before such a term existed.

Look up the Nagorno-Karabakh situation for basically the exact same thing but without all the high profile involvement.

I'd meet them halfway and make the entire city an International City, similar to Danzig before World War II (i'll grant that didn't end well, but it would be the best way to satisfy not only them, but adherents of all of the faiths who find it an important city).