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Forums - Gaming Discussion - 3DS outsells Vita by over 46:1 in Japan, 40:1 in different tracker

 

First reaction to Vita sales?

Yikes! 87 20.91%
 
Terrible! 28 6.73%
 
Awful! 23 5.53%
 
Dead! 113 27.16%
 
Poor Vita... 79 18.99%
 
Nice sales! 72 17.31%
 
Other 14 3.37%
 
Total:416
VGKing said:
sales2099 said:
Somehow I doubt ACL and COD are gonna help this holiday.......

In Japan? Of course not.

Oh, here it comes: VGFlop.



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3DS will easily surpass 10M in Japan this year, and maybe 30M WW?



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The day that X360 sells more than Vita is when Sony's handheld days are done. It was relatively close this week.



sundin13 said:
naruball said:
 


How can you be certain that it would sell more on 3ds? Like I said, that Japanese game was released on vita, psp and 3ds and despite the vita's tiny install base, it outsold the 3ds and psp versions. Though I do agree with your argument that it would be cheaper to develop for the 3ds.

well heres the thing...in japan, the vita has sold just over 1 million in hardware.

Also, Monster Hunter 3G has sold just over 1.5 million while the 3DS is around 8million. That is an 18.5% attach rate (for a game that has been released before and was recently put on the eShop)...even if you give the MH vita a 50% attach rate, it would still only sell 1/3 of what the 3DS version sold...its really hard to believe that MHvita would sell better on the vita than the 3DS

A Monster Hunter announcement alone would make the Japanese go out and buy a Vita. 
There are so many PSP Monter Hunter fans, I think the transition into Vita WILL happen eventually. There's no reason why people can't have both a 3DS and a Vita. But at this point though(if the game isn't already in development), Sony needs to beg for this game from Capcom.

It's really surprising for me that Sony isn't even trying to be #1 in Japan. I think from the very beginning they settled on just being #2, but it seems even that is unlikely. When the 3DS outsells the Vita 46:1, THAT is when you need to panic. If this doesn't set off alarms at Sony HQ, nothing will. Price cut is needed in Japan more than anywhere else. Immediately.



Well, seems like it won't even be a contest in Japan (but to be honest we knew that since months ago). The problem for sony is that they don't have any 3rd party support at all and unlike Nintendo they don't have the first party power to keep a console alive by themselves, however this is actually a good thing for gaming. You only need to purchase a 3DS now and you will have the best 1st and 3rd party software of the world :D



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VicViper said:
Last time that something like that happened was when PS2 launched... sold ~75 times the Dreamcast.

But this was no hardware launch... just a game + bundle.

And we all know what happened with the Dreamcast...



 

Here lies the dearly departed Nintendomination Thread.

Were people expecting these kind of sales for AC? I never knew it was this big in japan



VGKing said:
Conegamer said:
naruball said:
Kynes said:
The problem Sony has is that with those sales, no mentally sane developer would invest on a Vita AAA exclusive game. This time they don't have a twin console that could make it viable in the long term.

Yeah, not really. A couple of months ago a Japanese game sold best on Vita (beat psp and 3DS). Persona 4 Golden did amazing as well. I have no doubt that a monster hunter game on the vita would sell extremely well, even better than on the 3ds.

The issue is; if you don't have this title in development, or if it is in the early stages of development, then why risk releasing the title on the PSV as opposed to the 3DS when there's such a large sales gap?

They'll always be anomolies, yes. But you'd have to be pretty gutsy to take the plunge on the Vita and the Vita alone with no backup plan. And if they do create a backup plan in the 3DS, then you've sort of defeated the whole concept in the first place.

I don't think any Japanese devloper would make a game exclusively for Vita anymore. Sony would really have to pay them to make the game, fund it themselves and maybe publish it too.

Exactly my point. So if you don't have exclusives, then what attracts people to the console?

And if the 3DS is outselling it by such a large amounth, then why bother even making the Vita version in the first place?

 

I can only imagine the scene getting worse. With DQVII and MH4 coming out early next year, for the 3DS, I think the Vita has literally no chance. The way things are going, of course.



 

Here lies the dearly departed Nintendomination Thread.

Conegamer said:
amp316 said:
Conegamer said:
naruball said:
Yes, this definitely deserved a thread.

I don't know about you, but 2 rivalling devices with one being outsold ~45:1 is certainly not a good sign, and is certainly something that should be highlighted. I can't recall a time in the past where such a thing has happened.

I remember when this site was always about sales.  That was a long time ago.

Don't bring that up; you're making me all nostalgic. 

Those were the days alright...perhaps the WiiU will present some excitement but I just don't know.


Conegamer, is this your first profile?..it says you joined in the end of August 2010..now I don´t really remember, but if I´m not mistaken by that time the site had already ceased to be always about sales...that was back in 07 and 08.



JGarret said:
Conegamer said:
amp316 said:
Conegamer said:
naruball said:
Yes, this definitely deserved a thread.

I don't know about you, but 2 rivalling devices with one being outsold ~45:1 is certainly not a good sign, and is certainly something that should be highlighted. I can't recall a time in the past where such a thing has happened.

I remember when this site was always about sales.  That was a long time ago.

Don't bring that up; you're making me all nostalgic. 

Those were the days alright...perhaps the WiiU will present some excitement but I just don't know.


Conegamer, is this your first profile?..it says you joined in the end of August 2010..now I don´t really remember, but if I´m not mistaken by that time the site had already ceased to be always about sales...that was back in 07 and 08.

Yes it is my first profile. I was just a lurker back as long as '08, before any of the VGChartz divisions into different catergories. But even in 2010 there was a lot of sales talk; namely around the Wii dropping off and the PS3 rising. But now; even with the launch of a new system next week, there seems to be relatively little sales interest.



 

Here lies the dearly departed Nintendomination Thread.