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Which presidential candidate will you vote for?

Barack Obama 356 55.89%
 
Mitt Romney 137 21.51%
 
Gary Johnson 38 5.97%
 
Jill Stein 15 2.35%
 
Somebody else 87 13.66%
 
Total:633
RenderMonk on 25 October 2012
gergroy said:

Honestly, doing nothing would have been better than what they did.  They ended up passing a tax on small businesses in the middle of a recession, who does that?  Maybe they were thinking the economy would recover soon and it wouldn't matter.  However, it is obvious now that Obama's initial plan on economic recovery was not enough.  The economy has been essentially stagnate for the last four years.  If there isn't a huge uptick in the economy by the time that tax hits those businesses, we are going to be in for another big recession.  

Wow. I stepped away from this mid dayy, and you are still going on about it. It really is unbelieveable how someone with so much to say, can be so dead wrong with the things he chooses talk about. Again, you have NO IDEA what it takes to run the nation. The president has done incredible things, with the unprecidented total blockage of forward movement in this country by the republican party. To see it any other way, is proof of just how brain washed you truely are. There is quite literally nothing more that I can say that would convince you to the other wise. Then again, I look at your post count, and I can see just how much you like to agrue with people. I am convinced that while you aren't totally ignorant about the on-goings of the nation, you are totally confused and ultimately making the worng choice for the country by voting Romney.



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gergroy on 25 October 2012
Mazty said:

Obama. Mitt has based his campaign on back tracking and lies. A party that denies global warming is absolutely insane, as well as one which seems to have complete nonsensical justifications for pregnancy via rape!

Also for the record, what the media is telling you about how close it is is complete bull. In last months New Scientist there's a good article stating how many different large polling organisations that take into account many more factors are hailing a clear Obama win. This is also clearly shown in the betting odds - whether you like it or not, these companies finances depend on making sure that the person with the best return, the most tempting person to bet on, doesn't win. Romney is at 3/1 compared to Obama's 1.4/1.


not going to lie, I lol'd at the pic.

Especially with republicans like mourdock and Akin



bluesinG on 25 October 2012
gergroy said:
GameOver22 said:

Quick question: In regards to the economy, what would you have preferred him to do with the supermajority? As far as I remember, the stimulus was already passed, so I don't think its realistic to expect him to try and pass another stimulus or tax break at the time, especially given how contentious passing the stimulus was just a few months previosly. Granted, its a lot easier to look back in hindsight and say something else should have been done, but I think they would have had a difficult time mustering support (talking public support) for more economic measures (that raised the deficit) at the time.

Honestly, doing nothing would have been better than what they did.  They ended up passing a tax on small businesses in the middle of a recession, who does that?  Maybe they were thinking the economy would recover soon and it wouldn't matter.  However, it is obvious now that Obama's initial plan on economic recovery was not enough.  The economy has been essentially stagnate for the last four years.  If there isn't a huge uptick in the economy by the time that tax hits those businesses, we are going to be in for another big recession.  

Really?

This graph ends in mid-2011, and the private sector has added jobs every month since then.



gergroy on 25 October 2012
RenderMonk said:
gergroy said:
 

Honestly, doing nothing would have been better than what they did.  They ended up passing a tax on small businesses in the middle of a recession, who does that?  Maybe they were thinking the economy would recover soon and it wouldn't matter.  However, it is obvious now that Obama's initial plan on economic recovery was not enough.  The economy has been essentially stagnate for the last four years.  If there isn't a huge uptick in the economy by the time that tax hits those businesses, we are going to be in for another big recession.  

Wow. I stepped away from this mid dayy, and you are still going on about it. It really is unbelieveable how someone with so much to say, can be so dead wrong with the things he chooses talk about. Again, you have NO IDEA what it takes to run the nation. The president has done incredible things, with the unprecidented total blockage of forward movement in this country by the republican party. To see it any other way, is proof of just how brain washed you truely are. There is quite literally nothing more that I can say that would convince you to the other wise. Then again, I look at your post count, and I can see just how much you like to agrue with people. I am convinced that while you aren't totally ignorant about the on-goings of the nation, you are totally confused and ultimately making the worng choice for the country by voting Romney.

lol, look dude, you are new here, I can see that.  If you knew me you would realize how lame what you just said is.

So let me just say this.  Nothing I said is wrong.  Obamacare is a tax that was passed in the middle of a recession.  Do you still not understand that I'm talking about Obamacare?  I'm not talking about Obama's tax plan, I'm talking about Obamacare.  

And please, don't be so overly dramatic about right wrong choices for this country.  Obama and Romney share so many similarities that this country will likely be on the exact same course no matter who is elected.  



Mazty on 25 October 2012
gergroy said:
RenderMonk said:
gergroy said:
 

Honestly, doing nothing would have been better than what they did.  They ended up passing a tax on small businesses in the middle of a recession, who does that?  Maybe they were thinking the economy would recover soon and it wouldn't matter.  However, it is obvious now that Obama's initial plan on economic recovery was not enough.  The economy has been essentially stagnate for the last four years.  If there isn't a huge uptick in the economy by the time that tax hits those businesses, we are going to be in for another big recession.  

Wow. I stepped away from this mid dayy, and you are still going on about it. It really is unbelieveable how someone with so much to say, can be so dead wrong with the things he chooses talk about. Again, you have NO IDEA what it takes to run the nation. The president has done incredible things, with the unprecidented total blockage of forward movement in this country by the republican party. To see it any other way, is proof of just how brain washed you truely are. There is quite literally nothing more that I can say that would convince you to the other wise. Then again, I look at your post count, and I can see just how much you like to agrue with people. I am convinced that while you aren't totally ignorant about the on-goings of the nation, you are totally confused and ultimately making the worng choice for the country by voting Romney.

lol, look dude, you are new here, I can see that.  If you knew me you would realize how lame what you just said is.

So let me just say this.  Nothing I said is wrong.  Obamacare is a tax that was passed in the middle of a recession.  Do you still not understand that I'm talking about Obamacare?  I'm not talking about Obama's tax plan, I'm talking about Obamacare.  

And please, don't be so overly dramatic about right wrong choices for this country.  Obama and Romney share so many similarities that this country will likely be on the exact same course no matter who is elected.  

One honest question I have is that considered Romeny's policy hopping, how can you guarentee what policies he would actually enact? That's my concern. 



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gergroy on 25 October 2012
bluesinG said:
gergroy said:
GameOver22 said:

Quick question: In regards to the economy, what would you have preferred him to do with the supermajority? As far as I remember, the stimulus was already passed, so I don't think its realistic to expect him to try and pass another stimulus or tax break at the time, especially given how contentious passing the stimulus was just a few months previosly. Granted, its a lot easier to look back in hindsight and say something else should have been done, but I think they would have had a difficult time mustering support (talking public support) for more economic measures (that raised the deficit) at the time.

Honestly, doing nothing would have been better than what they did.  They ended up passing a tax on small businesses in the middle of a recession, who does that?  Maybe they were thinking the economy would recover soon and it wouldn't matter.  However, it is obvious now that Obama's initial plan on economic recovery was not enough.  The economy has been essentially stagnate for the last four years.  If there isn't a huge uptick in the economy by the time that tax hits those businesses, we are going to be in for another big recession.  

Really?

This graph ends in mid-2011, and the private sector has added jobs every month since then.

I didn't say we were in a recession, I said we were in a stagnate economy.  Those job numbers are anemic and our workforce has shrunk.  That isn't a healthy economy, it is stagnate.



gergroy on 25 October 2012
Mazty said:
gergroy said:
RenderMonk said:
gergroy said:
 

Honestly, doing nothing would have been better than what they did.  They ended up passing a tax on small businesses in the middle of a recession, who does that?  Maybe they were thinking the economy would recover soon and it wouldn't matter.  However, it is obvious now that Obama's initial plan on economic recovery was not enough.  The economy has been essentially stagnate for the last four years.  If there isn't a huge uptick in the economy by the time that tax hits those businesses, we are going to be in for another big recession.  

Wow. I stepped away from this mid dayy, and you are still going on about it. It really is unbelieveable how someone with so much to say, can be so dead wrong with the things he chooses talk about. Again, you have NO IDEA what it takes to run the nation. The president has done incredible things, with the unprecidented total blockage of forward movement in this country by the republican party. To see it any other way, is proof of just how brain washed you truely are. There is quite literally nothing more that I can say that would convince you to the other wise. Then again, I look at your post count, and I can see just how much you like to agrue with people. I am convinced that while you aren't totally ignorant about the on-goings of the nation, you are totally confused and ultimately making the worng choice for the country by voting Romney.

lol, look dude, you are new here, I can see that.  If you knew me you would realize how lame what you just said is.

So let me just say this.  Nothing I said is wrong.  Obamacare is a tax that was passed in the middle of a recession.  Do you still not understand that I'm talking about Obamacare?  I'm not talking about Obama's tax plan, I'm talking about Obamacare.  

And please, don't be so overly dramatic about right wrong choices for this country.  Obama and Romney share so many similarities that this country will likely be on the exact same course no matter who is elected.  

One honest question I have is that considered Romeny's policy hopping, how can you guarentee what policies he would actually enact? That's my concern. 

I honestly can't, that is one reason why I don't like Romney.  I look at voting for Romney as a gamble.  Hopefully if Romney wins we will get the moderate Romney.  I actually don't expect Romney to win, the electoral system is against him.  

My reason for voting for Romney is more as a vote against Obama rather than for Romney.



GameOver22 on 25 October 2012
Mazty said:
gergroy said:
RenderMonk said:
gergroy said:
 

Honestly, doing nothing would have been better than what they did.  They ended up passing a tax on small businesses in the middle of a recession, who does that?  Maybe they were thinking the economy would recover soon and it wouldn't matter.  However, it is obvious now that Obama's initial plan on economic recovery was not enough.  The economy has been essentially stagnate for the last four years.  If there isn't a huge uptick in the economy by the time that tax hits those businesses, we are going to be in for another big recession.  

Wow. I stepped away from this mid dayy, and you are still going on about it. It really is unbelieveable how someone with so much to say, can be so dead wrong with the things he chooses talk about. Again, you have NO IDEA what it takes to run the nation. The president has done incredible things, with the unprecidented total blockage of forward movement in this country by the republican party. To see it any other way, is proof of just how brain washed you truely are. There is quite literally nothing more that I can say that would convince you to the other wise. Then again, I look at your post count, and I can see just how much you like to agrue with people. I am convinced that while you aren't totally ignorant about the on-goings of the nation, you are totally confused and ultimately making the worng choice for the country by voting Romney.

lol, look dude, you are new here, I can see that.  If you knew me you would realize how lame what you just said is.

So let me just say this.  Nothing I said is wrong.  Obamacare is a tax that was passed in the middle of a recession.  Do you still not understand that I'm talking about Obamacare?  I'm not talking about Obama's tax plan, I'm talking about Obamacare.  

And please, don't be so overly dramatic about right wrong choices for this country.  Obama and Romney share so many similarities that this country will likely be on the exact same course no matter who is elected.  

One honest question I have is that considered Romeny's policy hopping, how can you guarentee what policies he would actually enact? That's my concern. 

Truth is, you have a point, but its not like Obama is much better....just look at his complete turnaround on foreign policy issues. Whether its intentional lying, naivety, or "flip-flopping", politician's campaign speeches are not a good source for determining what they are going to do once they are in office.

They are almost always incredibly optimistic about whats going to happen when on the campaign trail, then when they get in office, pragmatism and reality kick in.



dsgrue3 on 25 October 2012
chocoloco said:

 

By the way, the popular vote still shows a lead for Romney. That does not matter as swing state polls are continually favoring Obama.


History proves otherwise. Only one time in our history as a country has a President received +3% of the popular vote and lost the election. Samuel J. Tilden - 1876.



RenderMonk on 25 October 2012
gergroy said:
RenderMonk said:
gergroy said:
 

Honestly, doing nothing would have been better than what they did.  They ended up passing a tax on small businesses in the middle of a recession, who does that?  Maybe they were thinking the economy would recover soon and it wouldn't matter.  However, it is obvious now that Obama's initial plan on economic recovery was not enough.  The economy has been essentially stagnate for the last four years.  If there isn't a huge uptick in the economy by the time that tax hits those businesses, we are going to be in for another big recession.  

Wow. I stepped away from this mid dayy, and you are still going on about it. It really is unbelieveable how someone with so much to say, can be so dead wrong with the things he chooses talk about. Again, you have NO IDEA what it takes to run the nation. The president has done incredible things, with the unprecidented total blockage of forward movement in this country by the republican party. To see it any other way, is proof of just how brain washed you truely are. There is quite literally nothing more that I can say that would convince you to the other wise. Then again, I look at your post count, and I can see just how much you like to agrue with people. I am convinced that while you aren't totally ignorant about the on-goings of the nation, you are totally confused and ultimately making the worng choice for the country by voting Romney.

lol, look dude, you are new here, I can see that.  If you knew me you would realize how lame what you just said is.

So let me just say this.  Nothing I said is wrong.  Obamacare is a tax that was passed in the middle of a recession.  Do you still not understand that I'm talking about Obamacare?  I'm not talking about Obama's tax plan, I'm talking about Obamacare.  

And please, don't be so overly dramatic about right wrong choices for this country.  Obama and Romney share so many similarities that this country will likely be on the exact same course no matter who is elected.  


Look, Dude,....I've been just shy of your registered time by 1 year. That doesn't make me "new here." I've also been coming to this site long before actually registering. Listen, I understand you are talking about Obamacare. I'm saying you don't know what is involved in the decision making process for the president. For all you know, his advisors informed him that this was a great policy to shoot for, while also working on the economy. They just didn't know that the republicans would completely block forward progress to the extent that they did. Had republicans not done that, the bill could have passed, and they would have moved on to other issues. But no.

I'm not being overly dramatic, but if you believe that both Romney and Obama share so many similarities that either candidate would be about the same in office, you are clearly brain washed. Just because Mitt is lying through his teeth, and agreeing with several at the moment, things that Obama stands for, doesn't mean he won't turn tail, and be completly the opposite once he takes office. Romney and his campaign are so dead set on beating Obama, that they will say and do ANYTHING to win. Including lying about what they believe concerning their policies. This is why your choice to vote for him, as if someone new will have a "chance at something better" if maybe we get the moderate Romney, is a gabmle you shouldn't be willing to take. Our country is in such bad shape due to the decade rule under Bush. Everyone knows that, even the republicans that were backing him.

Listen, it's late and we've done this all day long. There are plenty of people out there, that want to understand these things, and want to see the country get better. For those that don't, vote for Romney.



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