If Ocarina of Time is Citizen Kane, what is Vertigo?

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brendude13 on 20 October 2012

sperrico87 said:

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Ocarina of Time is purely the best game because of nostalgia. If you didn't play it when it was originally released, then you're not going to understand. Playing it for the first time on 3DS, there is no way it would live up to the hype.

Final Fantasty VII is my favourite game of all time and I first played it in 2009.

You're a special case, then lol. My point is true for the vast majority of people, though.

I know, I agree, I'm like that too with quite a few old games. I'm just trying to say that Final Fantasy VII is THAT amazing, that it became my favourite game of all time without relying on nostalgia.

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kain_kusanagi on 20 October 2012

brendude13 said:

sperrico87 said:

brendude13 said:

sperrico87 said:

Ocarina of Time is purely the best game because of nostalgia. If you didn't play it when it was originally released, then you're not going to understand. Playing it for the first time on 3DS, there is no way it would live up to the hype.

Final Fantasty VII is my favourite game of all time and I first played it in 2009.

You're a special case, then lol. My point is true for the vast majority of people, though.

I know, I agree, I'm like that too with quite a few old games. I'm just trying to say that Final Fantasy VII is THAT amazing, that it became my favourite game of all time without relying on nostalgia.

I played FFVII when it came out. I was super hyped for it and I enjoyed it. But it's not my favorite game or even my favorite RPG. I think it has aged rather badly in both visuals and gamplay. The music is still top notch though. I will consider that it may be one of the very best final fatnasy games, but time has not been kind to the entire JRPG genre. The only RPG from back then that I still love today is Panzer Dragoon Saga. But it did so many things different than standard JRPGs like Final Fantasy it's hard to even consider it part of the same genre.

I'm glad you liked it. It is a good game. Not what I'd consider THAT amazing though.

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fighter on 20 October 2012

kain_kusanagi said:

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I don't think Ocarina of Time is the undisputed best game of all time. It is one of the best games of all time, but I don't think there is a game that the vast majority all agree is the best.

It's an interesting topic, but everyone has their favorites. Film as a medium was nearly perfected during the era of Citizen Kain. Video Games as a medium are still very much imperfect. Some games want to be movies, others don't have any story at all. What makes a video game good, is it gameplay or a great story with great actors? I personally believe gameplay trumps any attempt at narrative. When narrative is done well it does enhance the game, like Portal 1 and 2, but it's the gameplay that really makes the experience.

If I had to pick a game It would probably be one of the Super Mario Bros. games. They are fun, challenging and have good sound and music. They have just enough story to lay a foundation for the setting and the controls are just about the gold standard.

Which Mario game do you think it might be, kain?

See, that's the problem. Its so difficult to narrow it down. Do you go with the first one because it got so much right when nobody had even tried it before? Or the third one for expanding so much? Do you go with the forth for perfecting 2D Mario or NSM for refining it further? Do you go with the first to do 3D because it did what no other game had done or do you go with Galaxy 2 or 3D Land for refining 3D Mario gamplay?

Right now I'm enjoying Super Mario 3D Land, but the one I've played the most is probably Super Mario 3. Does nostolgia blind me? I don't think so because the old games are still fun to play today. Maybe that is what tells you if a game is truely great. Time shows what lasts and what doesn't.

I'm going to go with the Super Mario Bros. for the NES. It's the oldest and still fun and challenging today. Still be so much fun to play today as it was back in the day proves to me, at least, that it is a classic. Modern games, while very good, have yet to stand the test of time. In the future they may prove their worth, but right now we can only look back.

I believe it was in 1989 that Mario became more famous than Mickey - and it was one the first post-modern icon for kids (but several years after pac-man)

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