I think this is a pretty stupid topic. I dont see anything wrong with hyping up games regardless of how well they do critically. If I see a game and like it then I have all the right to try and hype it up - you may not agree with me or think me an idiot for being interested in that particular game but regardless I can say and do whatever I want to support that game. It is up to OTHER people to decide whether they agree with what I am saying or not but really, why the hell should I care whether some listens to my hype or not or buys a game based on it and doesnt like it. Its really up to that person to do the math and find the info on the game.

A lot of the guys against hyping in this thread are going on about overhyping, that they dont want hyping about games that later have lower reviews than expected. WTF. How do you sell games, especially sony who seem to come out with new IPs often, if you dont hype. We have already had some games that havent sold as much as sony would like and some seem to suggest that there should be LESS hyping. Personally, imo there can never be too much hype. In fact maybe there should be a hype thread in the forums for each console.

You seem to talk as if it were your job to make these games sell.

Fans: This game is awesome, buy it.
Victim: This is is garbage, and all the peer reviews agreed.
Fans: Well, %^&* you, too.

And, that's how to get more people to like your console of choice.

My point is that the game even had some fans from the start...    What was so great about the swan from the start except an special look?  People this days are already hyping up games for just having some nice looking art;..(aka a lot of 2d games the recent years)..

What interested me in The Unfinished Swan was the initial tech demo of a white world that you had to work your way through by revealing the environment with paint, the minimalist art style, and then I became even more excited when I played it at E3 and found out that it wasn't a one trick pony and different levels would have you using the paint in different ways in different areas.  All of that with a cool somewhat sad story about Monroe and his deceased mom and I couldn't help but be excited.  

Your turn now, what reasons are there that Swan didn't seem so great from the start?

It's a problem, but it won't go away.

Marketing firms hire people to make false accounts on forums. These accounts develop followings or trust in the community and then at the appropriate time they hype games.

Your one of those people that have a special pair of glasses on, where you believe everyone should see things your way and those glasses randomly put make believe images to certain aspects of the picture you see.

You have te nerve to post about someones counter productive agenda but fail to look back through the thread and realise you have the largest counter productive agenda here.

I'll let yourself and others care to read through the thread with your special glasses taken off.

I wont bother trying to explain anything of the humour of my posting in this thread originally. But again you wont see that without taking off your special make believe glasses.

Care to tell the world what my "agenda" is?  I would be curious to hear you think my agenda is.  If you can't even name it, then you don't even know what it is, and you are blowing smoke.  It is, "I know you are, but what am I?" nonsense.  So, go ahead and tell people what the heck my agenda is.  Again, if you can't then you don't have a clue and are blowing smoke.  Well, ok, maybe your agenda is to pretend to be a Microsoft fanboy for giggles.  That is fine.  If that was the case, I am sorry for taking you seriously and thinking you were.

If it is this thread alone, as opposed to why post on forums, then you see my point has been that individuals with console bias, will end up shilling EVERYTHING on their console, because they seek to convert others to their console of choice.  It is religious devotion and doesn't do anything to help.  It does correspond pretty well with the original post, by the way.  Of course, you are free to disagree here and say, "Nah, shilling for a console of choice is a GOOD thing".  Mmm'k I guess.  

Isn't this game also on the PSP? Why would it be a killer app for the Vita? I NEVER heard anyone say that and I was pretty active around the forums at that time. Do you have proof to backup your claims?

selnor telling people they have special colored glasses on.

cute.