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So... Kinect's goal was to slow down the Wii's sales, but it failed to accomplish this goal since Nintendo killed the Wii before Kinect had the chance to kill it?



IIIIITHE1IIIII said:

So... Kinect's goal was to slow down the Wii's sales, but it failed to accomplish this goal since Nintendo killed the Wii before Kinect had the chance to kill it?


I thought it was just me. I dont think Kinect was ever going to slow down the Wii or Im sure that was never MS attention. They probably wanted to get some of that dance demograph and they did get them. In terms of games, if anyone thought that it was going to work well with anything but dancing and mingame comps was getting too high



spurgeonryan said:
oniyide said:
IIIIITHE1IIIII said:

So... Kinect's goal was to slow down the Wii's sales, but it failed to accomplish this goal since Nintendo killed the Wii before Kinect had the chance to kill it?


I thought it was just me. I dont think Kinect was ever going to slow down the Wii or Im sure that was never MS attention. They probably wanted to get some of that dance demograph and they did get them. In terms of games, if anyone thought that it was going to work well with anything but dancing and mingame comps was getting too high

Same can be said for the Wiimote. Who would have known that it would help the Wii sell close to 100 million units.


no it cant, there was no competition for the Wiimote in regards to what it was doing and bringing to the table. Sure there was eyetoy for PS2 but that was in the last gen, Sony had already trounced the other two, so they didnt really push it (didnt need too). Kinect (and Move) were kind of late to the party. 



spurgeonryan said:
oniyide said:
spurgeonryan said:
oniyide said:
IIIIITHE1IIIII said:

So... Kinect's goal was to slow down the Wii's sales, but it failed to accomplish this goal since Nintendo killed the Wii before Kinect had the chance to kill it?


I thought it was just me. I dont think Kinect was ever going to slow down the Wii or Im sure that was never MS attention. They probably wanted to get some of that dance demograph and they did get them. In terms of games, if anyone thought that it was going to work well with anything but dancing and mingame comps was getting too high

Same can be said for the Wiimote. Who would have known that it would help the Wii sell close to 100 million units.


no it cant, there was no competition for the Wiimote in regards to what it was doing and bringing to the table. Sure there was eyetoy for PS2 but that was in the last gen, Sony had already trounced the other two, so they didnt really push it (didnt need too). Kinect (and Move) were kind of late to the party. 


No. @bold

The Kinect was never going to be able to be on the same level as the Wii motion control It did not have the games. As oniyide said it had a few popular dance games and that is it. But it is obvious that Microsoft wanted more for this little device. Call it the Furby of the gaming world. Everyone had to have it and it made them boatloads of money, but that was it.

You honestly thinkg that Microsoft did not think this was going to be a big rival for the Wii mote? Don't kid yourself. You think they just did it to get some of the dance demographic? What about the Move?

No, these guys put this out because they were jealous of what Nintendo had done. HD was not enough to get gamers attention and the Wii was running away with this Gen when they released their seperate devices. Nintendo handled the Move easily by releasing the motion plus.


what else was it supposed to do but make money? Cause if you are right and MS wanted it to do more, then they are crazy IMHO. As for Move, Sony isnt that crazy they knew they werent going to beat Ninty or MS, which is why they didnt really push it. Considering that they have been making the camera(which is probably the most expensive part of Move) for years they must have figured why not, its not like any of the parts are expensive to make, they make money on every piece of Move equipment sold, its not always about beating the other guy. Matter of fact I love the way Sony handled Move, they treated motion like a secondary thing, an option, which IMHO is what is should have been all along. Oh sure its not sexy, or grand, but considering the limited use for Kinect and the horrendous support for motion+ I think Move got them both beat not in sales but pure content.

Speaking of Motion+ you gotta be kidding, motion+ didnt kill Move, Move woudl have sold the same, hell Wii would have sold the same. The only game in the motion+ library that actually did well was Sports Resort and im pretty sure taht it would have sold as well with motion+. Grand Slam didnt do gangbusters, Red Steel 2 kinda flopped. It sure as hell didnt do anything for Zelda



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I thought Kinect was supposed to get the xbox 360 out of the bedroom into the living room and turn the 360 into a subscription based music / tv / movie viewing device. Seems they're still going forward with that.
The games are simply the Trojan horse. The annual sports and dance games are sufficient for that.



They wanted to sell more hardware and they did just that, games for this were never going to be great.

Then again I can't stand Motion Control period.



I had some high hopes for a few games. Rise of Nightmares being one of those but I don't think I made it past level 2. Kinect Sports is fun for party play and Child of Eden was an interesting game with some of the best hand tracking for the device. Kinect Fun Labs was complete garbage, even Video Kinect was poor quality. I kinda wish Milo had come out, it seemed fairly interesting. Seems they just rushed a library of games rather than produce quality.



So is the nextbox coming with like a kinect version two or something? or are microsoft going to ditch the kinect?



Kinect and PS Move have helped MS and Sony capture casual gamer market sales and slow down the sales momentum of the run away console leader Wii. Motion control is definitely not for everyone it appeals to casual gamers, kids and soccer moms.