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ikol on 09 October 2012

I don't preorder games unless they give me free crap (they did that) and I don't preorder until close to release. Probably preorder the weekend of the 9th.

I played both beta and loved it. It's the game I and others have asked for ever since we fell in love with smash bros and wanted to see other company's chars in that sorta of system. It feel like ppl made up their minds to not like it and never gave it a fair open minded chance. Yes I want Crash, Cloud, and all those other chars I grew up with but I liked the game before I found out they weren't in it. I understands its not from a lack of trying but bc the owners wouldn't allow it.



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PlaystaionGamer on 09 October 2012

nope but il be buying it on PS3! was going to get it on Vita but seeing as i get the vita one free i might as well get the PS3 version tbh..
i do think this game will bomb sadly... especially the Vita sales



M.U.G.E.N on 09 October 2012

the only reason why I havent preordered it yet because

1. I don't preorder games much

2. Waiting to see store exclusive pre order bonuses..if there are any

I will just say this..the gameplay is addictive, deep and fun! Just go in with an open mind..it's an experience that is very different to any other game



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osed125 on 09 October 2012

The thing is that this game has gotten too many mixed reactions, some people like it, some people hate it. In the end the reviews are going to decided if this game is going to be a success or a fail experiment.

As for me, I don't own a PS3 but my roommate does and I asked him if he was gonna get it and he said not atm, maybe when the game it's really cheap. 



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HabinoBR on 09 October 2012

Will pre-order it on the final week



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Jaywood2010 on 09 October 2012

The game being based on supers ruins it for me. On top of that I don't care much for the characters.




       

Chandler on 09 October 2012
o_O.Q said:
Chandler said:


No, I'm saying that they actively tried to avoid 2D games in order to differentiate themselves from the Mega Drive and the SNES. Them now doing a complete 180 and basically saying "Look, this is what Playstation is all about, this is how our biggest faces battle it out Playstation style. It's 2D btw." IS a travesty. And if you don't think my opinion doesn't add anything I suggest you read the OP one more time.

 

The characters used in this game going under the names of Raiden and Dante do not deserve to be listed under the PS2 banner and I have no idea what a "colonel radec" or "fat princess" is. I have owned every single playstation console or handheld and if even I don't know all the characters that's not really a good sign for the broad appeal the game needs to be a success.

"I'm saying that they actively tried to avoid 2D games in order to differentiate themselves from the Mega Drive and the SNES."

???

i thought the document you posted reffers to ps2 and ps3 wouldn't that then apply to the gamecube and the wii?

( which would be weird as i remember the gamecube being home to mostly 3d experiences but whatever )


"Them now doing a complete 180"

ah so its only now that they've embraced 2d gameplay?

i'm guessing one of their biggest franchises this gen lbp doesn't really count?

but regardless you're the only person i've seen so far raise this issue against the game so whats the problem? 

 

"The characters used in this game going under the names of Raiden and Dante do not deserve to be listed under the PS2 banner"

the franchises they're from originated on ps2... which is why i listed them as such

 

" I have no idea what a "colonel radec" or "fat princess" is."

you haven't played killzone similarly to how even though i was solely a nintendo fan up until the gamecube i hadn't played ice climbers so i had no idea who they werein melee...

the same goes for game and watch, roy, marth etc etc etc yet they were still in the roster 

 

"I have owned every single playstation console or handheld and if even I don't know all the characters that's not really a good sign for the broad appeal the game needs to be a success."

keeping in mind that the aforementioned third party characters are outside of their control what would you suggest the dev team do to allay your fears?

Sony, SCEA specifically, discouraged 2D games from the very first day they entered the industry. The document I linked was just a quick google copy and paste.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=77553

 

It's not about them "now" doing a 180, of course there were a few other 2D games. It's just really, really, really funny that they practically sum up their entire history with a kind of game they actively discouraged for over a decade.

 

Yeah, the SSB games also had characters most people didn't know. The difference is, those characters were additions to the important faces and not front and center like they are in PSABR. SSB would be just as shitty with just Marth, Pepe and Nana, Lucas or Olimar and characters like Mario, Link, Samus, Fox, Donkey Kong missing. Sadly, I'm not the only person that thinks this way and even if I were, that doesn't automatically render my opinion false.

 

The dev team can do nothing against third parties not cooperating. But this shows Sony's problem really well. They are so dependant on third parties. What defined them and what people associate with Playstation all those years didn't belong to them in the first place. They are just the hardware manufacturer.



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homer on 09 October 2012
Turkish said:
homer said:
I am skeptical because the beta was terrible and the art style too. The characters don't mesh well, the super sytem is annoying, the maps are surprisingly boring despite the fact that they have a great idea for crossover maps, and keeping up with your character on the screen is so unneccesarily harder than it should be. Also, controls were weird and not in a way that I makes it a good kind of unique and the characters roster is lame. Could have been great but...I guess they could delay the launch, add more characters to the game, make a distinctive art style and match characters to it, make better maps, and add alternate fighting mechanics such as health bars or something other than just the super system. I also noticed that there were rarely any items on the battlefield in PASBR. In fact I don't recall touching anything except bubbles in the LBP level and I don't think they did anything. Maybe there weren't even any items in the beta...Don't worry about those, I don't use them ever in Smash and wouldn't in PASBR.


You weren't in the beta. The beta was awesome, who told you it was terrible?

Ummm. Yes I was. I had it on my ps3. I also had the LBP Karting beta. Erased both for more space for ps plus releases. Want to get hyped for sony games? Get hyped for LBP Karting because that game is fun(despite the terrible art style), not PASBR.



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o_O.Q on 09 October 2012
Chandler said:
o_O.Q said:
Chandler said:


No, I'm saying that they actively tried to avoid 2D games in order to differentiate themselves from the Mega Drive and the SNES. Them now doing a complete 180 and basically saying "Look, this is what Playstation is all about, this is how our biggest faces battle it out Playstation style. It's 2D btw." IS a travesty. And if you don't think my opinion doesn't add anything I suggest you read the OP one more time.

 

The characters used in this game going under the names of Raiden and Dante do not deserve to be listed under the PS2 banner and I have no idea what a "colonel radec" or "fat princess" is. I have owned every single playstation console or handheld and if even I don't know all the characters that's not really a good sign for the broad appeal the game needs to be a success.

"I'm saying that they actively tried to avoid 2D games in order to differentiate themselves from the Mega Drive and the SNES."

???

i thought the document you posted reffers to ps2 and ps3 wouldn't that then apply to the gamecube and the wii?

( which would be weird as i remember the gamecube being home to mostly 3d experiences but whatever )


"Them now doing a complete 180"

ah so its only now that they've embraced 2d gameplay?

i'm guessing one of their biggest franchises this gen lbp doesn't really count?

but regardless you're the only person i've seen so far raise this issue against the game so whats the problem? 

 

"The characters used in this game going under the names of Raiden and Dante do not deserve to be listed under the PS2 banner"

the franchises they're from originated on ps2... which is why i listed them as such

 

" I have no idea what a "colonel radec" or "fat princess" is."

you haven't played killzone similarly to how even though i was solely a nintendo fan up until the gamecube i hadn't played ice climbers so i had no idea who they werein melee...

the same goes for game and watch, roy, marth etc etc etc yet they were still in the roster 

 

"I have owned every single playstation console or handheld and if even I don't know all the characters that's not really a good sign for the broad appeal the game needs to be a success."

keeping in mind that the aforementioned third party characters are outside of their control what would you suggest the dev team do to allay your fears?

Sony, SCEA specifically, discouraged 2D games from the very first day they entered the industry. The document I linked was just a quick google copy and paste.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=77553

 

It's not about them "now" doing a 180, of course there were a few other 2D games. It's just really, really, really funny that they practically sum up their entire history with a kind of game they actively discouraged for over a decade.

 

Yeah, the SSB games also had characters most people didn't know. The difference is, those characters were additions to the important faces and not front and center like they are in PSABR. SSB would be just as shitty with just Marth, Pepe and Nana, Lucas or Olimar and characters like Mario, Link, Samus, Fox, Donkey Kong missing. Sadly, I'm not the only person that thinks this way and even if I were, that doesn't automatically render my opinion false.

 

The dev team can do nothing against third parties not cooperating. But this shows Sony's problem really well. They are so dependant on third parties. What defined them and what people associate with Playstation all those years didn't belong to them in the first place. They are just the hardware manufacturer.

"Sony, SCEA specifically, discouraged 2D games from the very first day they entered the industry"

well obviously this isn't the case anymore and hasn't been for a while so why is it relevant?

ironically just today derrick the deathfin is coming out exclusively on psn 

http://blog.us.playstation.com/2012/10/09/derrick-the-deathfin-splashes-onto-psn-today/

how many scea reps do you see in the post discouraging the devs from making this game 2d  

 

"But this shows Sony's problem really well. They are so dependant on third parties. "

i'd agree with you on that point if you weren't trying to tie it in with characters who were relevant to playstation over a decade ago

crash, spyro, lara croft etc are not important to playstation at this point in time and from what i remember that wasn't the case with the ps2 either

their importance to this game is completely rooted in the past yet you're using that to reflect on the playstations situation in the present which imo makes no sense

if you'd said something like CoD is the most sold franchise on ps3 therefore sony is reliant on third party franchises, however, i'd agree with you



Chandler on 09 October 2012
o_O.Q said:
Chandler said:
o_O.Q said:
Chandler said:


No, I'm saying that they actively tried to avoid 2D games in order to differentiate themselves from the Mega Drive and the SNES. Them now doing a complete 180 and basically saying "Look, this is what Playstation is all about, this is how our biggest faces battle it out Playstation style. It's 2D btw." IS a travesty. And if you don't think my opinion doesn't add anything I suggest you read the OP one more time.

 

The characters used in this game going under the names of Raiden and Dante do not deserve to be listed under the PS2 banner and I have no idea what a "colonel radec" or "fat princess" is. I have owned every single playstation console or handheld and if even I don't know all the characters that's not really a good sign for the broad appeal the game needs to be a success.

"I'm saying that they actively tried to avoid 2D games in order to differentiate themselves from the Mega Drive and the SNES."

???

i thought the document you posted reffers to ps2 and ps3 wouldn't that then apply to the gamecube and the wii?

( which would be weird as i remember the gamecube being home to mostly 3d experiences but whatever )


"Them now doing a complete 180"

ah so its only now that they've embraced 2d gameplay?

i'm guessing one of their biggest franchises this gen lbp doesn't really count?

but regardless you're the only person i've seen so far raise this issue against the game so whats the problem? 

 

"The characters used in this game going under the names of Raiden and Dante do not deserve to be listed under the PS2 banner"

the franchises they're from originated on ps2... which is why i listed them as such

 

" I have no idea what a "colonel radec" or "fat princess" is."

you haven't played killzone similarly to how even though i was solely a nintendo fan up until the gamecube i hadn't played ice climbers so i had no idea who they werein melee...

the same goes for game and watch, roy, marth etc etc etc yet they were still in the roster 

 

"I have owned every single playstation console or handheld and if even I don't know all the characters that's not really a good sign for the broad appeal the game needs to be a success."

keeping in mind that the aforementioned third party characters are outside of their control what would you suggest the dev team do to allay your fears?

Sony, SCEA specifically, discouraged 2D games from the very first day they entered the industry. The document I linked was just a quick google copy and paste.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=77553

 

It's not about them "now" doing a 180, of course there were a few other 2D games. It's just really, really, really funny that they practically sum up their entire history with a kind of game they actively discouraged for over a decade.

 

Yeah, the SSB games also had characters most people didn't know. The difference is, those characters were additions to the important faces and not front and center like they are in PSABR. SSB would be just as shitty with just Marth, Pepe and Nana, Lucas or Olimar and characters like Mario, Link, Samus, Fox, Donkey Kong missing. Sadly, I'm not the only person that thinks this way and even if I were, that doesn't automatically render my opinion false.

 

The dev team can do nothing against third parties not cooperating. But this shows Sony's problem really well. They are so dependant on third parties. What defined them and what people associate with Playstation all those years didn't belong to them in the first place. They are just the hardware manufacturer.

"Sony, SCEA specifically, discouraged 2D games from the very first day they entered the industry"

well obviously this isn't the case anymore and hasn't been for a while so why is it relevant?

ironically just today derrick the deathfin is coming out exclusively on psn 

http://blog.us.playstation.com/2012/10/09/derrick-the-deathfin-splashes-onto-psn-today/

how many scea reps do you see in the post discouraging the devs from making this game 2d  

 

"But this shows Sony's problem really well. They are so dependant on third parties. "

i'd agree with you on that point if you weren't trying to tie it in with characters who were relevant to playstation over a decade ago

crash, spyro, lara croft etc are not important to playstation at this point in time and from what i remember that wasn't the case with the ps2 either

their importance to this game is completely rooted in the past yet you're using that to reflect on the playstations situation in the present which imo makes no sense

if you'd said something like CoD is the most sold franchise on ps3 therefore sony is reliant on third party franchises, however, i'd agree with you


If you are satisfied with the characters that are in the game, please knock yourself out. It's not a mascot brawler for me without the actual mascots that made the Playstation brand what it is today. And you are taking this 2D thing quite literal. Obviously they turned their distaste down a couple of notches due to the struggles the PS3 had to endure. They simply couldn't afford to reject games anymore. But to me a mascot brawler is to show people what the company is all about, where it came from and where it goes. A 2D game with this kind of past and a cast full of 3D originated characters is hypocritical.



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