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It’s now only 2 months until the Wii U launches, and the next console generation alongside it. I’m incredibly excited to get my hands on a GamePad, but there are many people out there that are, shall we say, a tad less enthused.

British newspaper outlet The Sun unfairly ripped on the console with five unresearched, irrelevant and downright bizarre reasons not to buy the console. I should point out that this is the very same newspaper that fabricated lies about the 3DS causing dizziness and sickness and claimed that terrorists use Call of Duty to congregate. But to those less familiar with The Sun’s anti-gaming lies and exaggerations, this may well have put off casual Wii fans unfortunate enough to happen upon this corrupt newspaper and swallow their nonsense.

More recently, Bayonetta 2 was announced as a Wii U-exclusive. Were fans happy about finally getting a sequel to an excellent and beloved game they have begged for for years? Well, last time I checked people openly announcing that they want to kill themselves wasn’t a sign of positivity. Actually I hesitate to call them fans, after Twitter and gaming forums were bombarded with boycotts and developer Platinum Games were sent death threats. Why? Simply because the game is on Wii U, and they feel that Wii U exclusivity is a personal attack towards them. Isn’t that adorable?

There is a lot of hate around the Internet for Nintendo in general after their success with the Wii console. I feel that most of that comes from this hipster attitude, where hating on what’s popular somehow makes you incredibly cool and funny. But if people are actively vocal on their exaggerated hatred for the Wii, it only really serves to annoy people and start pointless arguments.

Some people have genuine disinterest for the console with reasons to back it up, and I respect that. I’m not saying anyone should be forced to like something, but whether you are a reasonable skeptic on the decision to buy the new console or one of the aforementioned fanboy pyschopaths, perhaps I can persuade you to look at the console in a more positive light.

HD Nintendo Games for the First Time

One of the common complaints with the Wii is that it has been quickly outpaced by Xbox 360 and PS3 in terms of power, leaving its graphical capabilities outdated. Nintendo is now taking its first into HD, and for will be the most graphically enhanced console on the market at least for a brief period. Its invalid to say that the Wii U will be obsolete when Sony and Microsoft bring out their next consoles, because there isn’t really much further we can advance graphically in games anyway. The Genesis had more bits than the SNES, and PS3 is the most powerful console available right now, but neither rose above their competitors.

But while graphics aren’t that big of a selling point, Nintendo taking their games into HD is very exciting. Many may think that the more cartoony Nintendo worlds won’t benefit much from HD like more realistic games on other systems will, but in fact the opposite is true. HD is currently wasted on gritty shooters that only show different shades of brown in their environments. Viva Pinata is a fantastic-looking game because it was extremely bright, vibrant and colourful, which is exactly how HD should be represented by when showing its capabilities. The use and clashing of colours in Rare’s candy-stuffed animal simulator made for an amazing retina-pleasing game, despite the simplicity of its cartoony style. We’ll soon get to see Mario’s, Zelda’s, and Pikmin’s worlds really come to life than ever before.

The GamePad Offers New Possibilities

Many people feel intimidated by motion control, or claim that its not “real gaming”. It can be a different experience to using a controller, but so what? For an industry where innovation is key to success and people complaining that there’s too many sequels and shooters, it baffles me how people are scared of change. I love traditional-style gaming on my PS3 and 360 controllers, but its always nice to have another console that approaches gaming in a different way. Besides, old-school control is going nowhere on Nintendo’s system – the GamePad itself has all the buttons and layout to be used without waggling or shaking, and the dual analogue sticks that the Wii Remotes lacked now open the possibilities for shooters and other genres.

It Won’t Repeat Wii’s Mistakes

Nintendo have proven that they have listened to their fans, and seem to be avoiding the same mistakes with their previous console. The most common complaints with the Wii are that it lacks the quality of online play that is present on other consoles, the tiny storage space and the lack of games in this last year or two. Nintendo of America President Reggie Fils-Aime has revealed many improvements on the new console. We can expect a more substantial online infrastrucure, unlimited storage options (quote: “you can plug in a full-on three terabyte hard drive if you want”) and a strong consistent line-up will mean we still have reason to turn on the system near the end of its life cycle.

The Next Generation and Support of Struggling Publishers

Remember when we were all excited when the next generation of consoles was soon to begin? As I said, graphics are unable to impress with massive new leaps, so Nintendo has rightfully created another machine that innovates how we play, rather than just how pretty the games look. I’ll never forget my first time swinging my Wii Remote, or my introduction to HD in GTAIV’s Liberty City.

Seven long years after this generation started with Microsoft’s Xbox 360, its about time we started afresh. With developers as big as Team Bondi (creators of L.A. Noire) going down on a worryingly regular basis, a system launch could be just what the industry needs to get back on track. Peter Molyneux himself has said that the lack of IP is ridiculous, and that its because too many publishers are holding out for the next generation. The reason we’re bombarded with sequels right now is because people believe that its too late in the console cycle to develop new IPs. And with the industry in the state its currently facing, what better company to support dying developers than the financially-dominant Nintendo.

The Games!

Most importantly, the Wii U will be home to many games you won’t find anywhere else. Aside Nintendo’s exclusives that almost always deliver, you can also expect many third-party developers supporting the system. Already we have Ubisoft offering ZombiU, and Platinum giving us Bayonetta 2 which, although you may complain, simply wouldn’t be possible at all without Nintendo. We’ll have many games that will utilise the GamePad’s tilt, touch and dual screen features in ways we never imagined, and I for one am very excited.

http://gamersyndrome.com/2012/video-games/embracing-the-wii-u-5-reasons-haters-should-reconsider-slamming-the-console/



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Obvious rebuttals

- Nothing first-party that takes advantage of its power has been announced except maybe Pikmin 3.
- Then announce games with those possibilities in. The Wii/Kinect/Move showed you can get burned by waiting for potential to be realised.
- Those weren't the mistakes costing it sales, except possibly stable online matchmaking. And the state of that on Wii U looks the same as Wii, reading between the lines. We know Nintendo will abandon Wii U development in a few years in favour of 3DS+1 just like they did for Wii->3DS->Wii U in that order.
- There is no evidence that third parties are choosing to support Wii U, or that cross-platform titles with /next/-gen will arrive at the same time or same condition on Wii U as they will on PS4/X720.
- ZombiU is the best example of a third party game? Bayonetta is paid for, no one else is voluntarily bringing AAA-style Wii U exclusives. "We'll have many games that use GamePad" - then please announce them first.

All in all the article wants us to buy on promises which the Wii and 3DS also had plenty of. Rational customers will wait for games they want to buy to come out before actually purchasing. Hating on Wii U is also irrational, but making an informed choice not to buy just yet is sensible.



1) I remember playing games like Metroid Other M and thinking that if the games was in HD, it would have made the experience so much better. So I agree that haters should look forward to Nintendo 1st party games in HD.

2) GamePad is the key to the Wii U's success, and Nintendo knows this. But if you're a hater and the Gamepad doesn't already peak your interest, then maybe the console is not for U.

3) Nintendo has been listening and that think should make fans and haters happy with their new strategy for the Wii U. Nintendo now has a two handed approach towards keep the casual games and attracting the hardcore ones. Games like Zombi U and Bayonetta are good starts at fulfilling the latter .

4) Gamers always get excited about console launches and such is what we as gamers need. When the console generation goes on to long it tends to only profit the big name games and developers. So only games like Mario, Halo and Uncharted seem to make any money. Gamers tend to be less willing to try new IPs at the end of a console generation I think.

5) Agreed.

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I love My Wii U, and the potential it brings to gaming.

Soleron said:

Obvious rebuttals

- Nothing first-party that takes advantage of its power has been announced except maybe Pikmin 3.
- Then announce games with those possibilities in. The Wii/Kinect/Move showed you can get burned by waiting for potential to be realised.
- Those weren't the mistakes costing it sales, except possibly stable online matchmaking. And the state of that on Wii U looks the same as Wii, reading between the lines. We know Nintendo will abandon Wii U development in a few years in favour of 3DS+1 just like they did for Wii->3DS->Wii U in that order.
- There is no evidence that third parties are choosing to support Wii U, or that cross-platform titles with /next/-gen will arrive at the same time or same condition on Wii U as they will on PS4/X720.
- ZombiU is the best example of a third party game? Bayonetta is paid for, no one else is voluntarily bringing AAA-style Wii U exclusives. "We'll have many games that use GamePad" - then please announce them first.

All in all the article wants us to buy on promises which the Wii and 3DS also had plenty of. Rational customers will wait for games they want to buy to come out before actually purchasing. Hating on Wii U is also irrational, but making an informed choice not to buy just yet is im go

i'm no agree with you. sounds more like a hater; a lot of bullshit in it too.



34 years playing games.

 

Teriol said:
Soleron said:

Obvious rebuttals

- Nothing first-party that takes advantage of its power has been announced except maybe Pikmin 3.
- Then announce games with those possibilities in. The Wii/Kinect/Move showed you can get burned by waiting for potential to be realised.
- Those weren't the mistakes costing it sales, except possibly stable online matchmaking. And the state of that on Wii U looks the same as Wii, reading between the lines. We know Nintendo will abandon Wii U development in a few years in favour of 3DS+1 just like they did for Wii->3DS->Wii U in that order.
- There is no evidence that third parties are choosing to support Wii U, or that cross-platform titles with /next/-gen will arrive at the same time or same condition on Wii U as they will on PS4/X720.
- ZombiU is the best example of a third party game? Bayonetta is paid for, no one else is voluntarily bringing AAA-style Wii U exclusives. "We'll have many games that use GamePad" - then please announce them first.

All in all the article wants us to buy on promises which the Wii and 3DS also had plenty of. Rational customers will wait for games they want to buy to come out before actually purchasing. Hating on Wii U is also irrational, but making an informed choice not to buy just yet is im go

i'm no agree with you. sounds more like a hater; a lot of bullshit in it too.

Could you be more specific? I'm happy to debate this.



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I think that Nintendo will do fine regardless of slandering. All Fanboys and those curious will pick one up at launch. I know ppl want the next huge thing, but I think it would be better for the developers if the PS3, XBOX 360 generation stuck around for at least 2 or 3 more years.

It's expensive making games and everyone has just gotten the hang of maximizing the current gen consoles. Now it can only be more profitable from here on out. But introduce another console like the PS4, you create a divide.

With Wii U, ppl are saying it's about as powerful as the current Gen with some bells and whistles. So that would make three consoles that publishers/developers could gain revenue on current gen platforms. I'm thinking we're going to see 2 more years of this before another huge console release.

So, I don't think ppl should slam Nintendo. It's going to make all your favorite game makers more money, which means more games for gamers.



Ugh, why can't hardcore Nintendo fans accept that some people just don't like Nintendo? I'm not a 'hater', to be a hater I'd actually have to care about Nintendo's products and I don't, I don't like any of Nintendos franchises and probably never will because they refuse to make any worthwhile new IPs. I don't like what I've seen of the Wii U at all, to answer why I'll just repsond to the 5 reasons I should love it:

1) HD Nintendo Games for the First Time -  don't care for a single Nintendo IP, HD won't make a difference.
2) The GamePad Offers New Possibilities -  The GamePad is a horribly designed gimmick, not interested. 
3) It Won’t Repeat Wii’s Mistakes -  The Xbox 360 & PS3 have perfectly fine online support, storage and consistent amount of desirable games. 
4) The Next Generation and Support of Struggling Publishers - Video game graphics have huge room for improvemnt, PS4 & 720 will make the Wii U look a generation behind. I'd rather wait for new IPs on the other platforms, they both do a much better in than Nintendo in this regard.
5) The Games! -  Again, I don't like any of Nintendo IPs. Sony and Microsoft's next gen consoles will get better 3rd support than the Wii U next gen, even if the Wii U has much better 3rd party support than the Wii had. And as for the examples, Left 4 Dead > Zombie U & God of War: Ascension >>>> Bayonetta 2. 

So the Wii U, Nintendo as a company offer nothing that interests pr excites me. I can see why some people are interested in the Wii U and like Nintendo products, I have no problem with that, I do however hate being called a hater just because I genuinely don't like something.
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justthatgamer
you dont care about Nintendo at all and you call yourself a gamer?
"The GamePad is a horribly designed gimmick, not interested. "
have you even tried it?
"Left 4 Dead > Zombie U & God of War: Ascension >>>> Bayonetta 2. "
not a single prove of this, just your obvious bias

haters are gonna hate, as proved by the poster above, but the WiiU is doing things right to recatch the core of this industry.......lol, even Patcher said Nintendo is doing things right xD



DieAppleDie said:
justthatgamer
you dont care about Nintendo at all and you call yourself a gamer?


One can only be a gamer if he cares about Nintendo?



I bought a Wii at launch because it offered something unique and exciting. I'm not convinced by the Wii U so far, Nintendo have show nothing compelling yet...