Not sure.
No matter what the Pres does for change, rich Congress&Senate will deny it to fit their own agenda anyways.
Just watch the rich get richer while the poorer stagnate and get taxed more.
Leatherhat on July 6th, 2012 3pm. Vita sales:"3 mil for COD 2 mil for AC. Maybe more. " thehusbo on July 6th, 2012 5pm. Vita sales:"5 mil for COD 2.2 mil for AC."
| aikohualda said: because your ancestor fought for that right..... they die for you to have that power... if you dont want to vote, go to north korea or somewhere |
Problem is they also fought for his freedom to do what he likes to do.
OT: give your vote to a 3rd party then. America is seriously underdeveloped in their party system.
| mrstickball said: Here's the thing: If enough people vote 3rd party, and a two-party candidate loses because of it, some majorly bad things will happen to the said party. They will recognize that a significant amount of voters are dissatisifed with the platform. They will have to do one of two things: 1) Adopt the 3rd parties' platform in some areas to cater 2) Cede that the party has become irrelevant (Whigs), resulting in the 3rd party becoming a major party 3) Keep fighting, and become a 3rd party themselves. Its worth it to vote 3rd party, because of any vote, it sends a message. It tells the politicians that they've screwed up. This has happened in both parties when long standing incumbents have been voted out. That's a start, but it needs to end in more parties being on the table. In Ohio, we had 3rd party candidates receive 5% of the vote in many races. That is a good start. But if it continues, it'll end up destroying the 2 party system. |
Agreed!
| dsgrue3 said: Edit: At poster above. A vote for the third party is also a vote for the incumbent. Stop wasting your vote. |
This type of comment is the reason why people don't vote for a third party. Voting for who you want to win is never wasting a vote. If more people voted for who they thought was best instead of getting scared in to voting for the big two this country would be in far better shape. But the big two alway try to scare people away from voting for 3rd parties.
Why should we vote? Because it is our duty and responsibility to vote, thats why. Sure, maybe the presidents aren't that great, but at least you have the right to vote. Some people can't even vote, and they end with a terrible leader. No choice, just force.
Seriously, you shouldn't abuse or take our democracy and rights for granted.
I think the biggest kick in the balls would be for everyone to just not vote for one term. A big f you to all these bastards. I could just see it now: "Nobody wins the election! Americans were sick of shitty candidates and just said fuck it!" If only no one could win.
Democracy is flawed. Even the Greeks knew that. The world is a more complex place now and one head of state can't handle everything. The general public can't be bothered to waste their time researching everything and having an informed vote. I don't vote because I cant make an educated vote. I'm not going to just choose because "people died for that right." Besides that, we live in a computerized technological society and we have 60 year old men in congress trying to pass laws on things they know nothing about, such as the internet.
Anyway, we have a general public that is retarded and can't make an educated vote and we have a bunch of old white men making the decisions on things they know very little about. So nobody has any idea about anything in this entire country. Sounds great. Why should I try to be a part of that? I don't.
Don't not vote. If you're not going to vote, at least go vote 3rd party like Libertarian. That'll do more for change than not voting.
| McDonaldsGuy said: The Presidents have been bought out a LONG time ago. It means nothing. America is crashing and burning, and there is nothing Americans can do about it. We did it to ourselves. Obama is absolutely awful though, period. Remember when he said Bush was unpatriotic for $4 trillion of debt in his 8 years of Presidency? Obama has racked up $7 trillion in 4 years! And people still care for this moron? |
If you want a laugh go on twitter and look up the hashtag "#imwithobama" it's absolutely hilarious. People actually give him credit for things like creating 2 million jobs, saving the auto industry, and ending the war in the middle east.
| dsgrue3 said: Vote.
Edit: At poster above. A vote for the third party is also a vote for the incumbent. Stop wasting your vote. |
People NEED to get the fuck out of the mindset that a third party vote is a wasted vote. If I'm not mistaken, voter turnout in the US is something like 40-50% each election. If the portion of that 50-60% that just isn't voting because they hate the two main options went out and vote 3rd party...along with people who are voting for "the lesser of two evils" then who knows a 3rd party could do really well, maybe even push for 2nd place or something and make a real splash.
If you just want a short term lesser of two evils, go ahead and vote Romney...but if you wanted potential long term change I'd be voting 3rd party.
One thing to remember about voting for a 3rd party candidate that I forgot:
A higher percentage of votes for 3rd parties usually means that certain benefits are granted to them. For example, in some states, if they garner above 5% of the votes, they may be eligible for federal funds, do not need to constantly request ballot access, and in can participate in debates with Republicans and Democrats (that one is the biggest!).
If Johnson would of had 15% of the national vote, he would be included in a 3-way debate with Obama and Romney. At 15%, he wouldn't win, but being able to debate on the national stage would be bigger and more important than just about anything.
Back from the dead, I'm afraid.
I could only agree with this if you truly believe that there is no difference between the candidates.
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