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chapset said:
mrstickball said:
chocoloco said:

Suddenly my 1st world problems seem minimal in comparison. We really benefit all the time from the long hours, horrible working conditions and abysmal pay of millions of people.


Alternatively, the "horrible pay" has brought about 200,000,000 people out of subsistence farming into a middle class. Foxconn employees make more than most university graduates in China. Pay is entirely relative.

could you provide a link to this clame please, am very surprise about that

I can show you links where suicides helped get pay raises.  So just tell your coworkers to take one for the team.  They jump from the buildings so much that they had to install safety nets to try and catch them.

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"At Foxconn, the basic salary for an assembly line worker in Shenzhen is expected to rise from 900 renminbi ($132) a month to 1,200 renminbi ($176). The minimum monthly wage in Shenzhen is 900 renminbi, about 83 cents an hour."

“We’re advocating the living wage, and we think the standard should be between 1,700 to 2,100 renminbi a month,” Ms. Chan said Wednesday. “And we also have other demands, like Foxconn should look into the problems of their management methodology.”

"Many migrant workers who typically move from inland provinces to coastal cities looking for factory work have complained that factory salaries have not kept pace with inflation. Many of them have decided to look for work closer to home.

Indeed, to help offset inflation and rising food, energy and housing costs — and to spur domestic consumption among the lower classes — Beijing urged local governments early this year to raise the minimum wage in the regions."

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/03/business/global/03foxconn.html?_r=0



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It's true, foreigners pay the most, but those people at foxconn who are only supposed to work 160 hours a month, usually work 240 or so. The government turns a blind eye to it, of course.



Do they fight like little girls or something? that's insignificant amount of injuries for 2000 people brawl.



chapset said:
mrstickball said:
chocoloco said:

Suddenly my 1st world problems seem minimal in comparison. We really benefit all the time from the long hours, horrible working conditions and abysmal pay of millions of people.


Alternatively, the "horrible pay" has brought about 200,000,000 people out of subsistence farming into a middle class. Foxconn employees make more than most university graduates in China. Pay is entirely relative.

could you provide a link to this clame please, am very surprise about that


I can confirm that It's true

 

You may heard of those Foxconn suicides news before

i'm not cold-blooded but the reason why so many Foxconn employees commited suicides inside their factories? Unlike 99.999% of chinese companies, they pays a hugh sum of death gratuity to the surviving family members. If they are going to end their lives no matter what, die as a Foxconn employee can actually help their family.




theprof00 said:
It's true, foreigners pay the most, but those people at foxconn who are only supposed to work 160 hours a month, usually work 240 or so. The government turns a blind eye to it, of course.


160 hours? Come on, it's China,

 

Normally, they are working 9 hours a day, 6 working days a week

It's very typical among all factories, if your working hours is only 240 a month, your factory is going out of business very soon



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stclam said:
theprof00 said:
It's true, foreigners pay the most, but those people at foxconn who are only supposed to work 160 hours a month, usually work 240 or so. The government turns a blind eye to it, of course.


160 hours? Come on, it's China,

 

Normally, they are working 9 hours a day, 6 working days a week

It's very typical among all factories, if your working hours is only 240 a month, your factory is going out of business very soon

I'm talking about compared with university level jobs. You can't teach for 240 hours a month.

This is why there is discrepancy.



i always think it's crazy how these people have to live and i always wonder if they just couldn't get double the amount as they get. they get so less money, even if they would get double the amount the product itself wouldn't have much higher production costs. just imagine those workers make millions of phones/chips/machines/whatever and they get $150 dollars or so, how much of every product was salary for the people producing it?



chapset said:
mrstickball said:
chocoloco said:

Suddenly my 1st world problems seem minimal in comparison. We really benefit all the time from the long hours, horrible working conditions and abysmal pay of millions of people.


Alternatively, the "horrible pay" has brought about 200,000,000 people out of subsistence farming into a middle class. Foxconn employees make more than most university graduates in China. Pay is entirely relative.

could you provide a link to this clame please, am very surprise about that


http://www.chinasmack.com/2011/stories/university-graduates-earn-little-more-than-migrant-workers.html

It cites 1,500 yuan/mo for graduates. Foxconn pays ~1,800 in some provinces.

 

Oh, and the president of Foxconn has already stated that wages are set to double or triple by 2013:

http://www.zdnet.com/blog/china/iphone-manufacturer-foxconn-to-double-worker-salaries-by-2013/438

University = 1,500 yuan

Foxconn = 4,400 yuan in 2013.

Which do you think is better for the average Chinese worker?



Back from the dead, I'm afraid.

stclam said:
Let's be fair, The whole article keeps talking Foxconn is the supplier of APPLE, iPhone, iPad......
They are the supplier of Nokia, Sony, Nintendo, Motorlola, HP, Intel, Microsoft, Dell, Acer, Amazon too

" ...makes automobile electronic components, consumer electronic components and precision moldings. An employee told Reuters the plant also makes parts and assembles Apple's iPhone 5."

"Foxconn also assembles products for Microsoft Corp. and Hewlett-Packard Co. It is one of China's biggest employers."

You're exaggerating a little...plenty of mentions of other companies, and not very many mentions of Apple.