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Why PS4 won't be cutting edge, and neither will Xbox3 - or Why Nintendo might win next gen

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Hellz yeah! Spot on 265 33.42%
 
I never thought of it like that.... 69 8.70%
 
So it's the mental institution next for you? 101 12.74%
 
So very, very wrong 266 33.54%
 
I'm a pussy with no opinion 88 11.10%
 
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brendude13 said:
Wh1pL4shL1ve_007 said:
Cthulhu said:
There is no need for Sony to release a new console if ps3 can compete with a "next" gen console

I never expected that when I paid 650euro for a 2007 60gb ps3


Honestly... if it cant run skyrim properly, then you know you have an aging console. No trolling just my oppinion. 

If Bethesda were competent it could run Skyrim properly.

If the PS3 had more system ram (or graphics ram) available, Bethesda could get skyrim to run properly.  The problem is fixed vram and fixed system ram, at 256 mb each.  I imagine the cell architecture is givnig them fits as well.



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Crono141 said:
brendude13 said:

If Bethesda were competent it could run Skyrim properly.

If the PS3 had more system ram (or graphics ram) available, Bethesda could get skyrim to run properly.  The problem is fixed vram and fixed system ram, at 256 mb each.  I imagine the cell architecture is givnig them fits as well.

There are RAM limitations and obviously the PS3 suffers more than the Xbox 360 and PC, but it's not like it's impossible. Many other developers achieve greater things than Skyrim on the PS3.

That's one thing I'm looking forward to with the Wii U, RAM, and lots of it.



brendude13 said:

The Vita does not have top of the line hardware. I would say SONY did learn their lesson, before the 3DS dropped its price the $249 price point of the Vita was praised.


The PS-Vita's price was praised by the same people who thought $600 was reasonable for a PS3 and $250 was too much for a Wii ...

Essentially, people who look at these in terms of value as hardware rather than value as a system.



HappySqurriel said:
brendude13 said:

The Vita does not have top of the line hardware. I would say SONY did learn their lesson, before the 3DS dropped its price the $249 price point of the Vita was praised.


The PS-Vita's price was praised by the same people who thought $600 was reasonable for a PS3 and $250 was too much for a Wii ...

Essentially, people who look at these in terms of value as hardware rather than value as a system.

Is that unreasonable?



brendude13 said:
HappySqurriel said:
brendude13 said:

The Vita does not have top of the line hardware. I would say SONY did learn their lesson, before the 3DS dropped its price the $249 price point of the Vita was praised.


The PS-Vita's price was praised by the same people who thought $600 was reasonable for a PS3 and $250 was too much for a Wii ...

Essentially, people who look at these in terms of value as hardware rather than value as a system.

Is that unreasonable?

Yes ...

Packaging $5000 worth of high end PC components into a $1000 game console may be an amazing value on hardware but it is still a moronically expensive game console. In contrast, selling $200 worth of components packaged into a $250 console may be an awful deal on hardware but it is a good price for a console.



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HappySqurriel said:
brendude13 said:
HappySqurriel said:
brendude13 said:

The Vita does not have top of the line hardware. I would say SONY did learn their lesson, before the 3DS dropped its price the $249 price point of the Vita was praised.


The PS-Vita's price was praised by the same people who thought $600 was reasonable for a PS3 and $250 was too much for a Wii ...

Essentially, people who look at these in terms of value as hardware rather than value as a system.

Is that unreasonable?

Yes ...

Packaging $5000 worth of high end PC components into a $1000 game console may be an amazing value on hardware but it is still a moronically expensive game console. In contrast, selling $200 worth of components packaged into a $250 console may be an awful deal on hardware but it is a good price for a console.

I don't see how it is, if people want more power then they can pay for it. $600 dollars for a games console is pretty ridiculous, but a $100 premium for much more advanced hardware isn't exactly bad value as a system.

Anyway, that doesn't even apply to the Vita so I don't know why you bought it up, $250 is a reasonable price for a handheld.



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brendude13 said:
HappySqurriel said:
brendude13 said:
HappySqurriel said:
brendude13 said:

The Vita does not have top of the line hardware. I would say SONY did learn their lesson, before the 3DS dropped its price the $249 price point of the Vita was praised.


The PS-Vita's price was praised by the same people who thought $600 was reasonable for a PS3 and $250 was too much for a Wii ...

Essentially, people who look at these in terms of value as hardware rather than value as a system.

Is that unreasonable?

Yes ...

Packaging $5000 worth of high end PC components into a $1000 game console may be an amazing value on hardware but it is still a moronically expensive game console. In contrast, selling $200 worth of components packaged into a $250 console may be an awful deal on hardware but it is a good price for a console.

I don't see how it is, if people want more power then they can pay for it. $600 dollars for a games console is pretty ridiculous, but a $100 premium for much more advanced hardware isn't exactly bad value as a system.

Anyway, that doesn't even apply to the Vita so I don't know why you bought it up, $250 is a reasonable price for a handheld.


The numbers I used were extreme to demonstrate my point ...

To the average consumer a home console is worth somewhere in the $200 to $400 range, and a handheld gaming system is worth somewhere in the $125 to $200 range; and the relative value each system provides is measured in the comparison between the two system's software libraries.

At any price level you will find people willing to pay for a system, but you probably won't get the masses to buy a handheld system for $250 even if it is amazingly advanced compared to its competition.



Hahahaha funniest thread in a long time. Please OP change your name to Nostradamus.



osed125 said:
usrevenge said:

but your wrong. I know this is a nintendo fan forum, but the ps4/xbox will be away ahead of the wiiu. the only way it won't happen is if MS and sony both decide to put out much weaker consoles then the norm at the same time. all indications point to at least Sony haveing a large upgrade in power,  MS is a toss up ( will they basically make a kinect box 2.0 or will it be a true successor)

@bold How do you know that? Give some reasons as to why you think that.

And what indications have Sony shown? other than Jack Tretton's PR talk

Because Sony never puts out a comparitivly weak console.
the only reason MS might is the complete shift in focus from gamers for gamers to kinect/family.  every rumor/estimate/leak about both companies console is indicating that they will be a large leap in graphical capabilities, yes they are all rumors but if you look at history almost every console infor was leaked somewhere on the internet, so one of the rumors are most likely true

also MS and Sony know that if they hold back graphic wise they will lose more competition to PC, which Sony definitly doesn't want, and MS wants to stop as well.

it's common sense, I Will never understand why this forum is so fanboyish.