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Kantor said:

Because it's nonsense that everyone who receives any form of government handout is a lost cause who will always vote Democrat no matter what.

As the OP points out, how many of those are senior citizens? And senior citizens overwhelmingly favour Romney.

That's exactly right, but that's not the argument that's being made here. In fact, I don't even see any argument being made. It's just, "Look at what that Mitt Romney said now! It's so self-evidently stupid and evil that we're not even going to talk about why!"



badgenome said:
KungKras said:
badgenome said:

It's hilarious how this is the big story of the day, just like Romney's comments last week overshadowed everything else (including murder). You carry that fucking Obama water, media!

Because if a guy running for president says stupid shit, it aint more important than regular everyday news?

1. What makes this statement stupid?

2. When the regular everyday news is so dire, I'd say no, it isn't.

He was implying that people were feeling too entitled to healthcare and food and housing, you know stuff that you are either dead or homeless without. He also said that he wouldn't convince those people to take personal responsibility and care for their lives, which is a stupid generalization.



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KungKras said:

He was implying that people were feeling too entitled to healthcare and food and housing, you know stuff that you are either dead or homeless without. He also said that he wouldn't convince those people to take personal responsibility and care for their lives, which is a stupid generalization.

He wasn't implying that at all. 47% of Americans aren't a government check away from starving to death or being homeless.

Or are you disagreeing with the notion that Mitt Romney is not a convincing person? He's right about that much, at the very least.



badgenome said:
Soundwave said:

Cut what exactly?

The "cut spending" rhetoric is equally bankrupt IMO. The US in not in the debt situation its in because of government programs and even welfare or anything like that.

The military, social security, and medicare are the big three. No politician has the balls to serious cut any of those, and really maybe they shouldn't.

Are you saying that Social Security and Medicare aren't a form of welfare? They certainly are. People are drawing out far more than they ever paid in, and it is redistributing money from one group (younger, poorer people) to another (older, richer people).

So everyone in Canada is receiving welfare?



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TruckOSaurus said:

So everyone in Canada is receiving welfare?

You tell me. But if you are consuming more than you pay in, then I'd say that you clearly are.

I don't understand why welfare is seen as a pejorative word. I mean, I'm not entirely opposed to some sort of a safety net but generally think that government welfare is kind of a bad idea. But if you think it's a good thing, more power to you. Why not own the term?



I dont care about 95% of the worlds population (has nothing to do with race, religion, skin color, gender or country of origin)

Its becaue 95% of people are dumb and just do shit because others do it. They are like ants that dont think. They believe whatever is said and love group events (ragemob etc).... 

This is also a reason why todays elections are not : Who is the best for our country and who has the best ideas!  Today its:  Who is the best dressed candidate with the best hair cut that looks charming has white teeth and enough money to pay good writers so his fake speech sounds good?

The whole election events/shows TV battles are a waste of money...

Well at least he cares about more americans than I do.



pokoko said:
badgenome said:
pokoko said:
Oh, um, I mean .. Liberal Media! Liberal Media! He didn't actually say that! It was photo-shopped! This shouldn't be covered by any writers because it's not fair!

Cover it, by all means. But some sense of proportion would be nice. The country is on an unsustainable fiscal path, the world is burning down around our ears, and all the media ever fixates on is Romney's latest real or imagined gaffe. Vetting a would be president is important and all, but there is a guy who has that job right now and he's never held to account for anything.

As for what Romney said, it's hard to imagine why it's even controversial in light of things like Julia. The whole DNC was one big ode to free abortions, for crying out loud. The Democrats seem pretty comfortable with their strategy of encouraging dependency, so why get bent out of shape if someone points it out?

Then make a thread about those things.

This is why any discussion about politics always gives me a headache.  The focus can never be about something a politician has done wrong.  It always turns into "uh, well, that thing the other guy did was worse!"  It's just pointless.

Except that's exactly what he's saying.

He put it stuipidly, and overexagerrated with the 47% number not voting for him... a lot will... but he's not wrong.

You don't think entitlements distort voting patterns?

If that wasn't A case there wouldn't be a huge arguement about "who is going to kill medicare!"

 

The 47% number was stupid, but he's right in that fixing the economy by cutting taxes to the poor doesn't mean shit to people who get government assitance, and probably have gotten it for quite a while.



TruckOSaurus said:
badgenome said:
Soundwave said:

Cut what exactly?

The "cut spending" rhetoric is equally bankrupt IMO. The US in not in the debt situation its in because of government programs and even welfare or anything like that.

The military, social security, and medicare are the big three. No politician has the balls to serious cut any of those, and really maybe they shouldn't.

Are you saying that Social Security and Medicare aren't a form of welfare? They certainly are. People are drawing out far more than they ever paid in, and it is redistributing money from one group (younger, poorer people) to another (older, richer people).

So everyone in Canada is receiving welfare?

Yes.  Look up the definition of Welfare... and you'll notice universal healthcare fits the bill.

Or, at least those who take out more then they put in anyway.



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Oh... and you can tell how young the reporter is that they can't think of any rough stretches that politicians have had past the second Bush election.

I mean... Dukakis and his stretch with the tank? Mondale's entire run? Bob Dole... being Dole