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oniyide said:

Which makes PG look even more foolish and full of crap. You would have to have been really ignorant to believe that line they were trying to feed people

That's exactly what bothers me. If Sega said since yesterday the real situation, why PG is not telling the truth?



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Pavolink said:
oniyide said:

Which makes PG look even more foolish and full of crap. You would have to have been really ignorant to believe that line they were trying to feed people

That's exactly what bothers me. If Sega said since yesterday the real situation, why PG is not telling the truth?

It makes no sense, maybe they didnt want to seem like they needed to be bailed out? But Sega already said they did so still dont see why they lied.



They want Bayonetta in as many hands as possible, publisher for PS3/360 version ditched the game (it was cancelled). No release = no sales. Nintendo agree to finish funding/publish the game = at least Wii U sales... seems to be getting it into more gamers hands than not releasing it at all as the alternative was.

I wonder if they will port the 360 original to Wii U at all. I have it on PS3 but that version is only 30fps. If not hopefully MS will show some impressive stuff for the next Xbox and include 360 compatibility.



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After seeing all of this outrage yesterday it was obvious most of this people having "meltdowns" didn't even played the first Bayonetta and they were just doing to insult Nintendo, Sega or PG. I still don't understand this big deal for a game that it isn't extremely popular to begin with, this is understandable for the fans of the series but for the rest it's just stupid.



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What was that, a political speech? They took several paragraphs to say nothing at all.

Also, someone is going to need to prove to me that Bayonetta 2 was canceled. That makes no sense. If it was canceled, then it wouldn't be ready for the Wii U in such a short amount of time. All I can find are rumors, mostly having to do with SEGA not publishing it.

"Kamiya has since posted another Tweet saying "Game that hasn't been announced cannot be canceled,so I know Bayo 2 is safe in your mind-heart and around PG office". This is getting a bit out of hand." -- http://www.computerandvideogames.com/345910/bayonetta-2-cancelled-rumour-keep-an-eye-on-magazines-says-creator/

"Though this means Kamiya won't be directing the game, he is on board as a supervisor and revealed that work on Bayonetta 2 has been ongoing for some time. He explained, "We were secretly making one the entire time"" -- http://www.ign.com/articles/2012/09/14/bayonetta-2-devs-respond-to-exclusivity-criticism

The first game sold 2 million copies. The sequel was never canceled.

My guess is that Nintendo went shopping around a long time ago for a developer willing to sell exclusive publishing rights for an "adult" title to the highest bidder. With SEGA's logo also appearing, I'm betting that they got paid off, as well. SEGA is listed as an advisor, which probably means they played no part at all except to give up publishing rights. Usually there is a "first rights to sequel" clause.

"@FaseehDeen Bayonetta 2 is developed by Platinum Games and published by Nintendo. SEGA is working with both as an advisor to the project."

As far as I can see, this is about money over fans. If they needed the money, then I really don't have a problem with that. It's a business, after all. However, it breaks any feelings of loyalty, and I can definitely understand why many people are unhappy. That BS "explanation" certainly didn't help.

I'm not buying another console now. I have more than enough games to play between my PC and current consoles, and I'm sure I'm not the only one. I just hope Platinum thought this through, and that the cash from Nintendo is enough to make up for lower sales and the loss of people who once considered themselves loyal fans.



I loved the first one and enjoy Platinums' games but it really just feels like a classless move. A middle finger to around 2 million buyers of the PS3 and 360 supporters of the original game.

Whatever is said by them will strictly be to gloss things over or cover their a**.



ClassicGamingWizzz said:
Mr Khan said:
妊天度は俺たちにお金をくれました。

妊天度がだいすき!

from where is that ? translation please !!!

Just a joke on my part. Even if i support Platinum's move here (which i very much do) i agree that they should just say it was about money and be done with it. So i said it in Japanese "Nintendo gave us money. We love Nintendo!"



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DevilishSix said:
I loved the first one and enjoy Platinums' games but it really just feels like a classless move. A middle finger to around 2 million buyers of the PS3 and 360 supporters of the original game.

Whatever is said by them will strictly be to gloss things over or cover their a**.

What else where they suppossed to do? Nobody else wanted to publish for them. Sega dropped them. And it should b understandable if Nintendo don´t want to publish Multiplats.



AndrewWK said:
DevilishSix said:
I loved the first one and enjoy Platinums' games but it really just feels like a classless move. A middle finger to around 2 million buyers of the PS3 and 360 supporters of the original game.

Whatever is said by them will strictly be to gloss things over or cover their a**.

What else where they suppossed to do? Nobody else wanted to publish for them. Sega dropped them. And it should b understandable if Nintendo don´t want to publish Multiplats.

I keep seeing people repeat this rumor as fact but I can't find any kind of confirmation anywhere.

"Supervisor Hideki Kamiya boasted of a successful secret. "Even though there has been a bit of a gap since the release of the last game, but I still got lots of request for a sequel from gamers. We were secretly making one the entire time." Kamiya said he is supervising the "world, story, characters, etc." and working closely with new director Hashimoto."  --   http://www.joystiq.com/2012/09/14/platinum-breaks-the-silence-after-bayonetta-2-announcement/

The game was never canceled, period.

Most likely, Nintendo worked out a deal with PG and SEGA a long time ago to take over publishing rights, which in turn started the rumor that SEGA had declined to publish Bayonetta 2.  The original sold 2 million copies, a sequel was almost a given.

This is completely about Nintendo showing PG and SEGA the money.  My guess is that Nintendo has commited a LOT of funds, enough to make up for the sales Bayonetta 2 will lose by not going multi-plat.  They seem pretty set on proving the Wii U will have "adult" games.  However, PG is also giving up the loyalty of many fans, which I'm not entirely sure will be good for them in the future.  Only time will tell.