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Cats or Dogs ?

Cats !!! 105 46.88%
 
Dogs !!! 90 40.18%
 
cats and dogs suck , turk... 3 1.34%
 
I hate animals , burn them all !!!!! 6 2.68%
 
see results ... 13 5.80%
 
Total:217

I've read a few posts that seem to imply that people who don't have an "emotional void" slot for a pet have something wrong with them, or that they're anti-social, but I think that's very inaccurate. My "emotional void" slots are for human beings. I just simply don't have one for a pet, or much of one, and I can see nothing wrong with that. There is nothing in me that needs to be needed by an animal. That's why I like cats; they're self-sufficient but still pleasant. They're intelligent and don't need constant attention and care. You rarely see starving cats on the side of the road. I like knowing I can go away for a few days and my cat will be just fine. They're soft and nice to touch and yet they don't come with a lot of the negatives (in my opinion) that you get with dogs.

The way I see it, dogs are like kids, but cats are like pals. I don't need my cat to be depressed because I die. I don't need him to jump me and lick my face when he welcomes me home or wet himself because he's excited to see me. Now, if my girlfriend did that, my "emotional void" would be filled to the brim. Er, except the wetting herself part. Maybe.

Also, as someone else said, "dog people" can be extremely inconsiderate. I have a good friend that I rarely visit any longer. I just hate going to his house. Watching a game at his place is annoying because you're always stepping over dogs, or pushing one out of your lap, or having one whine at you if you eat anything, or you have to cover your ears when they start barking right beside you. And at least one of them always, always stinks like it rolled in something dead. And why do they come up and just start licking your hand, or shove their head between your legs? It's pretty much divided our "group" between the two dog people and the rest of us who now always go elsewhere to watch any games. If we go anywhere, and he shows up with his dog, there is always a groan from the rest of us, since it means we're going to be half-babysitting.

Dogs (and needy cats) just aren't for me.



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You speak the truth, sir!



curl-6 said:

Nope. Cats are emotionless parasites. They aren't social animals by nature, so they don't really form social bonds with people; as far as they are concerned you're just a mobile part of their environment that feeds them.

Dogs, as pack animals, do form social bonds.

Your dog likes you. Your cat just likes your house.

Have you actually looked into this or ever owned a cat? Because you are very wrong.



pokoko said:
I've read a few posts that seem to imply that people who don't have an "emotional void" slot for a pet have something wrong with them, or that they're anti-social, but I think that's very inaccurate. My "emotional void" slots are for human beings. I just simply don't have one for a pet, or much of one, and I can see nothing wrong with that. There is nothing in me that needs to be needed by an animal. That's why I like cats; they're self-sufficient but still pleasant. They're intelligent and don't need constant attention and care. You rarely see starving cats on the side of the road. I like knowing I can go away for a few days and my cat will be just fine. They're soft and nice to touch and yet they don't come with a lot of the negatives (in my opinion) that you get with dogs.

The way I see it, dogs are like kids, but cats are like pals. I don't need my cat to be depressed because I die. I don't need him to jump me and lick my face when he welcomes me home or wet himself because he's excited to see me. Now, if my girlfriend did that, my "emotional void" would be filled to the brim. Er, except the wetting herself part. Maybe.

Also, as someone else said, "dog people" can be extremely inconsiderate. I have a good friend that I rarely visit any longer. I just hate going to his house. Watching a game at his place is annoying because you're always stepping over dogs, or pushing one out of your lap, or having one whine at you if you eat anything, or you have to cover your ears when they start barking right beside you. And at least one of them always, always stinks like it rolled in something dead. And why do they come up and just start licking your hand, or shove their head between your legs? It's pretty much divided our "group" between the two dog people and the rest of us who now always go elsewhere to watch any games. If we go anywhere, and he shows up with his dog, there is always a groan from the rest of us, since it means we're going to be half-babysitting.

Dogs (and needy cats) just aren't for me.


You know, I've seen this a lot on this thread, about how high maintenance dogs are....and yeah, it takes more to take care of then a cat, but it's not like they are this huge all consuming commitment.  I wake up, walk and feed the dogs (takes about 10 minutes), and then go to work.  I come home, 8-12 hours later, walk and feed them again and thats it.  

I've had room mates with cats, and to be honest I can't stand being around them.  They're underfoot a lot, they walk on countertops and other areas where we prepare food, after digging through thier own shit...which most cat owners don't clean out often enough, becuase they get used to the smell.  It's pretty disgusting having a box of feces in the house in the first place.  Not too mention all the stuff they scratch up.  Truth be told, the same can be said of dogs chewing things.... in all cases its more to do with owners then anything.

For people saying that people don't use cats to fill emotional voids, you're fooling yourself.  Jsut look at all the youtube videos with people talking to cats like they're children.



pokoko said:

Also, as someone else said, "dog people" can be extremely inconsiderate. I have a good friend that I rarely visit any longer. I just hate going to his house. Watching a game at his place is annoying because you're always stepping over dogs, or pushing one out of your lap, or having one whine at you if you eat anything, or you have to cover your ears when they start barking right beside you. And at least one of them always, always stinks like it rolled in something dead. And why do they come up and just start licking your hand, or shove their head between your legs? It's pretty much divided our "group" between the two dog people and the rest of us who now always go elsewhere to watch any games. If we go anywhere, and he shows up with his dog, there is always a groan from the rest of us, since it means we're going to be half-babysitting.

Dogs (and needy cats) just aren't for me.

Hahaha. But those are things that make dogs so lovely!! That they love to socialize with humans. To have them around you.

I love dogs and dog people too.

Nothing makes me happier than a dog.



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pokoko said:
(...) That's why I like cats; they're self-sufficient but still pleasant. They're intelligent and don't need constant attention and care. You rarely see starving cats on the side of the road. I like knowing I can go away for a few days and my cat will be just fine. They're soft and nice to touch and yet they don't come with a lot of the negatives (in my opinion) that you get with dogs.

The way I see it, dogs are like kids, but cats are like pals. (...)

Dogs (and needy cats) just aren't for me.


This seems like a very one-sided opinion of someone who's been around lots of indoor dogs. I'll agree with you on that point. That, however, was never my experience growing up with my dogs. Even when we only had one Golden Retriever, he never "needed" attention and we would leave him alone for hours, or even the whole day, and he'd be totally fine doing what he does. He was an outdoor dog in a big yard, something that big animals need. He would always call when we needed him, and he loved spending time with us and playing, but he would never beg us for attention.

He also found food just fine by himself (rabbits, avocados, and even birds). Dogs, when given the real living environment they need, do just fine.

Interestingly enough, our outdoor cat was the opposite. While he was good at getting his own food and could be left on his own for hours on end, he would also start meowing like CRAZY whenever he heard my sister's voice (she was basically his owner). He would claw at our windows (destroying our screens in the process) and meow, meow, meow until she finally went out there to give him attention. She'd pet him for a few minutes, head back inside, and then the meowing would start up again. It didn't always happen, though (as I mentioned earlier, he could be left for hours alone).

He spent 100% of his life outside though and always took care of himself and never got eaten by any wild animals (such as coyotes), so I will say I'm very proud of him as a cat. He was way more badass than 99% of housecats.



wfz said:
pokoko said:
(...) That's why I like cats; they're self-sufficient but still pleasant. They're intelligent and don't need constant attention and care. You rarely see starving cats on the side of the road. I like knowing I can go away for a few days and my cat will be just fine. They're soft and nice to touch and yet they don't come with a lot of the negatives (in my opinion) that you get with dogs.

The way I see it, dogs are like kids, but cats are like pals. (...)

Dogs (and needy cats) just aren't for me.


This seems like a very one-sided opinion of someone who's been around lots of indoor dogs. I'll agree with you on that point. That, however, was never my experience growing up with my dogs. Even when we only had one Golden Retriever, he never "needed" attention and we would leave him alone for hours, or even the whole day, and he'd be totally fine doing what he does. He was an outdoor dog in a big yard, something that big animals need. He would always call when we needed him, and he loved spending time with us and playing, but he would never beg us for attention.

He also found food just fine by himself (rabbits, avocados, and even birds). Dogs, when given the real living environment they need, do just fine.

Interestingly enough, our outdoor cat was the opposite. While he was good at getting his own food and could be left on his own for hours on end, he would also start meowing like CRAZY whenever he heard my sister's voice (she was basically his owner). He would claw at our windows (destroying our screens in the process) and meow, meow, meow until she finally went out there to give him attention. She'd pet him for a few minutes, head back inside, and then the meowing would start up again. It didn't always happen, though (as I mentioned earlier, he could be left for hours alone).

He spent 100% of his life outside though and always took care of himself and never got eaten by any wild animals (such as cayotes), so I will say I'm very proud of him as a cat. He was way more badass than 99% of housecats.


Yeah, I have two indoor dogs now (under 20 pounds) because I don't have a backyard.  Having a back yard with a dog makes them VERY self suffcient, though.  Always had huskys growing up, and even though they love attention, they are very independant and as long as you fed and changed thier water once a day they got along fine running around in the backyard.  I've also never had a dog that jumps into laps when not invited, thats all about setting ground rules when the dog is a puppy.



Cats :3



ClassicGamingWizzz said:
Spazzy_D said:
wfz said:
pokoko said:
(...) That's why I like cats; they're self-sufficient but still pleasant. They're intelligent and don't need constant attention and care. You rarely see starving cats on the side of the road. I like knowing I can go away for a few days and my cat will be just fine. They're soft and nice to touch and yet they don't come with a lot of the negatives (in my opinion) that you get with dogs.

The way I see it, dogs are like kids, but cats are like pals. (...)

Dogs (and needy cats) just aren't for me.


This seems like a very one-sided opinion of someone who's been around lots of indoor dogs. I'll agree with you on that point. That, however, was never my experience growing up with my dogs. Even when we only had one Golden Retriever, he never "needed" attention and we would leave him alone for hours, or even the whole day, and he'd be totally fine doing what he does. He was an outdoor dog in a big yard, something that big animals need. He would always call when we needed him, and he loved spending time with us and playing, but he would never beg us for attention.

He also found food just fine by himself (rabbits, avocados, and even birds). Dogs, when given the real living environment they need, do just fine.

Interestingly enough, our outdoor cat was the opposite. While he was good at getting his own food and could be left on his own for hours on end, he would also start meowing like CRAZY whenever he heard my sister's voice (she was basically his owner). He would claw at our windows (destroying our screens in the process) and meow, meow, meow until she finally went out there to give him attention. She'd pet him for a few minutes, head back inside, and then the meowing would start up again. It didn't always happen, though (as I mentioned earlier, he could be left for hours alone).

He spent 100% of his life outside though and always took care of himself and never got eaten by any wild animals (such as cayotes), so I will say I'm very proud of him as a cat. He was way more badass than 99% of housecats.


Yeah, I have two indoor dogs now (under 20 pounds) because I don't have a backyard.  Having a back yard with a dog makes them VERY self suffcient, though.  Always had huskys growing up, and even though they love attention, they are very independant and as long as you fed and changed thier water once a day they got along fine running around in the backyard.  I've also never had a dog that jumps into laps when not invited, thats all about setting ground rules when the dog is a puppy.

All dogs need to take a walk at least 1 hour per day minimum. Only running in the backyard is not ok and your dog i have to say was not happy.

Not saying that I didn't walk the dog.  I was in track and used to run 3 miles with the dogs regularly (Huskys are breed to run), just that if I left it in the yard for a day when I was out with friends it really wasn't a problem. 



Actually, though my family has had lots of dogs and cats, none of them were inside pets. That will never happen in my house, and I will never live with someone who wants indoor pets. I have mild dander allergies, and I hate the mess besides.

And, note, I did exclude needy cats. I don't like them, either. My niece has one that won't let you walk two steps, can't stand the thing.

Older dogs can also be pretty cool. We had a black lab that was very mature and serene, and since he always visited the stream in the woods behind my house, he seldom smelled bad. He's on my list of "animals I've associated with that I respect" with four cats.

So, basically, I hate high-strung dogs, which is pretty much most of them when they're young.