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Should RedInker buy Metroid Other M?

Yep! 79 72.48%
 
Nah 27 24.77%
 
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KungKras on 06 September 2012
curl-6 said:
RolStoppable said:
curl-6 said:

Adventures was 99% on foot. It's still part of the series. And all the flashy graphics in the world can't cover up a fundamentally flawed concept and bland Zelda-lite gameplay.

You don't seem to understand the difference between a mainline game and a spinoff. Even if SFA was the worst game in the world, it would not have killed Star Fox, because people would have said that it was never a proper Star Fox game to begin with and the quality of the series would be judged on the next mainline entry. Which was the mediocre Assault, followed by the mediocre Command. These are also unsurprisingly the games with the worst sales in the series.

Spin-offs are still part of a series and contribute to its quality. The franchise went from good to crap with Adventures, hence that's the one that killed it. It even introduced the on-foot stuff that dragged down Assault.

 

And I too hope that Nintendo realise their mistake with Other M; they probably will given its sales, but they might just take those to mean "fans don't want new things" instead of "fans don't want new things that ruin the entire franchise."

I guess Mario & Sonic at the olympics series is killing the Mario franchise then. Worst platform game ever....



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RedInker on 06 September 2012
forest-spirit said:
RedInker said:
How many points is Super Metroid on VC? I've had a look at trying to get the Prime trilogy too. I really don't know why I've never tried this series.


Super Metroid is 800 pts. Metroid Prime Trilogy is a fantastic package but it can be a pain to find for a decent price.



Yeah Im having trouble trying to find a second hand copy for a good price. Still I will continue to look.



darkknightkryta on 06 September 2012
KungKras said:
Crono141 said:
shakarak said:
The hate is completely unjustified. The game was great, and took metroid in a good direction. Nintendo needs more story driven games and I feel that's what they were trying to accomplish with Samus. The gameplay was very fun and addicting, and the cutscenes were awesome. The story wasn't quite the best, but it was certainly better then the story we've had in the previous games. I do like the Primes more (because of all the side stuff) but Other M was a great 10 hour thrill ride.


The hate is completely justified for many reasons listed above.  This games whole point was for samus to say, continuously "Hey, I'm a woman, and I have daddy issues."  If the next metroid is anything like OtherM, I'll completely skip it, and so will most folks who actually played super metroid for any length of time.  Team Ninja may have killed this franchise, just as Namco killed Starfox.

I do like the idea of more dialog and story in Metroid series.  But the specifics of this story made up probably the worst video game plot abortion I had ever witnessed.

If you want to try out metroid, start with Super Metroid or Zero Mission on the GBA.  Technically as far as story goes, Zero Mission comes first.  The intro to Super Metroid summarizes Metroid 1 and Metroid 2 well enough that you can start on it, though.  After that, play the prime series (Wii version with pointer controls.  So much better.)  Then play Metroid 4 for GBA (which is very linear, and more story driven).  Then, if you REALLY want to see how bad OtherM is, play it.  After playing through all the other games, it'll be impossible not to agree that it is by far the worst metroid game ever created. 

Will you people stop blaming Team Ninja already. Sakamoto did the writing, and he insisted on the control scheme. WTF did Team Ninja do wrong?

Make the best 2D gameplay Metroid?



KungKras on 06 September 2012
darkknightkryta said:
KungKras said:
Crono141 said:
shakarak said:
The hate is completely unjustified. The game was great, and took metroid in a good direction. Nintendo needs more story driven games and I feel that's what they were trying to accomplish with Samus. The gameplay was very fun and addicting, and the cutscenes were awesome. The story wasn't quite the best, but it was certainly better then the story we've had in the previous games. I do like the Primes more (because of all the side stuff) but Other M was a great 10 hour thrill ride.


The hate is completely justified for many reasons listed above.  This games whole point was for samus to say, continuously "Hey, I'm a woman, and I have daddy issues."  If the next metroid is anything like OtherM, I'll completely skip it, and so will most folks who actually played super metroid for any length of time.  Team Ninja may have killed this franchise, just as Namco killed Starfox.

I do like the idea of more dialog and story in Metroid series.  But the specifics of this story made up probably the worst video game plot abortion I had ever witnessed.

If you want to try out metroid, start with Super Metroid or Zero Mission on the GBA.  Technically as far as story goes, Zero Mission comes first.  The intro to Super Metroid summarizes Metroid 1 and Metroid 2 well enough that you can start on it, though.  After that, play the prime series (Wii version with pointer controls.  So much better.)  Then play Metroid 4 for GBA (which is very linear, and more story driven).  Then, if you REALLY want to see how bad OtherM is, play it.  After playing through all the other games, it'll be impossible not to agree that it is by far the worst metroid game ever created. 

Will you people stop blaming Team Ninja already. Sakamoto did the writing, and he insisted on the control scheme. WTF did Team Ninja do wrong?

Make the best 2D gameplay Metroid?

wat



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curl-6 on 06 September 2012
KungKras said:
curl-6 said:
RolStoppable said:
curl-6 said:

Adventures was 99% on foot. It's still part of the series. And all the flashy graphics in the world can't cover up a fundamentally flawed concept and bland Zelda-lite gameplay.

You don't seem to understand the difference between a mainline game and a spinoff. Even if SFA was the worst game in the world, it would not have killed Star Fox, because people would have said that it was never a proper Star Fox game to begin with and the quality of the series would be judged on the next mainline entry. Which was the mediocre Assault, followed by the mediocre Command. These are also unsurprisingly the games with the worst sales in the series.

Spin-offs are still part of a series and contribute to its quality. The franchise went from good to crap with Adventures, hence that's the one that killed it. It even introduced the on-foot stuff that dragged down Assault.

 

And I too hope that Nintendo realise their mistake with Other M; they probably will given its sales, but they might just take those to mean "fans don't want new things" instead of "fans don't want new things that ruin the entire franchise."

I guess Mario & Sonic at the olympics series is killing the Mario franchise then. Worst platform game ever....

Luckily for Mario he has many other great games to outweigh is bad ones, and the Olympics series hasn't made all the ones since crap.



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KungKras on 06 September 2012
curl-6 said:
KungKras said:
curl-6 said:
RolStoppable said:
curl-6 said:

Adventures was 99% on foot. It's still part of the series. And all the flashy graphics in the world can't cover up a fundamentally flawed concept and bland Zelda-lite gameplay.

You don't seem to understand the difference between a mainline game and a spinoff. Even if SFA was the worst game in the world, it would not have killed Star Fox, because people would have said that it was never a proper Star Fox game to begin with and the quality of the series would be judged on the next mainline entry. Which was the mediocre Assault, followed by the mediocre Command. These are also unsurprisingly the games with the worst sales in the series.

Spin-offs are still part of a series and contribute to its quality. The franchise went from good to crap with Adventures, hence that's the one that killed it. It even introduced the on-foot stuff that dragged down Assault.

 

And I too hope that Nintendo realise their mistake with Other M; they probably will given its sales, but they might just take those to mean "fans don't want new things" instead of "fans don't want new things that ruin the entire franchise."

I guess Mario & Sonic at the olympics series is killing the Mario franchise then. Worst platform game ever....

Luckily for Mario he has many other great games to outweigh is bad ones, and the Olympics series hasn't made all the ones since crap.

You're just not getting it.

There is a sharp difference between spinoff and mainline franchise. If Mario Kart started sucking, it would not kill the main platformer franchise. If Starfox Assault was good, Starfox adventures would have had no impact on the franchise.



I LOVE ICELAND!

curl-6 on 06 September 2012
KungKras said:
curl-6 said:
KungKras said:
curl-6 said:
RolStoppable said:
curl-6 said:

Adventures was 99% on foot. It's still part of the series. And all the flashy graphics in the world can't cover up a fundamentally flawed concept and bland Zelda-lite gameplay.

You don't seem to understand the difference between a mainline game and a spinoff. Even if SFA was the worst game in the world, it would not have killed Star Fox, because people would have said that it was never a proper Star Fox game to begin with and the quality of the series would be judged on the next mainline entry. Which was the mediocre Assault, followed by the mediocre Command. These are also unsurprisingly the games with the worst sales in the series.

Spin-offs are still part of a series and contribute to its quality. The franchise went from good to crap with Adventures, hence that's the one that killed it. It even introduced the on-foot stuff that dragged down Assault.

 

And I too hope that Nintendo realise their mistake with Other M; they probably will given its sales, but they might just take those to mean "fans don't want new things" instead of "fans don't want new things that ruin the entire franchise."

I guess Mario & Sonic at the olympics series is killing the Mario franchise then. Worst platform game ever....

Luckily for Mario he has many other great games to outweigh is bad ones, and the Olympics series hasn't made all the ones since crap.

You're just not getting it.

There is a sharp difference between spinoff and mainline franchise. If Mario Kart started sucking, it would not kill the main platformer franchise. If Starfox Assault was good, Starfox adventures would have had no impact on the franchise.

Except that Adventures isn't a spinoff to the degree that those games are. It's storyline links in directly with the other games, it's treated as a sequel in every way but the style of gameplay, which is something that has changed within a series before. It doesn't have the"this doesn't count" vibe. And Assault's shortcomings, namly the on foot stuff, can be traced directly to Adventures. Assault sucked because of Adventures.



darkknightkryta on 06 September 2012
KungKras said:
darkknightkryta said:
KungKras said:
Crono141 said:
shakarak said:
The hate is completely unjustified. The game was great, and took metroid in a good direction. Nintendo needs more story driven games and I feel that's what they were trying to accomplish with Samus. The gameplay was very fun and addicting, and the cutscenes were awesome. The story wasn't quite the best, but it was certainly better then the story we've had in the previous games. I do like the Primes more (because of all the side stuff) but Other M was a great 10 hour thrill ride.


The hate is completely justified for many reasons listed above.  This games whole point was for samus to say, continuously "Hey, I'm a woman, and I have daddy issues."  If the next metroid is anything like OtherM, I'll completely skip it, and so will most folks who actually played super metroid for any length of time.  Team Ninja may have killed this franchise, just as Namco killed Starfox.

I do like the idea of more dialog and story in Metroid series.  But the specifics of this story made up probably the worst video game plot abortion I had ever witnessed.

If you want to try out metroid, start with Super Metroid or Zero Mission on the GBA.  Technically as far as story goes, Zero Mission comes first.  The intro to Super Metroid summarizes Metroid 1 and Metroid 2 well enough that you can start on it, though.  After that, play the prime series (Wii version with pointer controls.  So much better.)  Then play Metroid 4 for GBA (which is very linear, and more story driven).  Then, if you REALLY want to see how bad OtherM is, play it.  After playing through all the other games, it'll be impossible not to agree that it is by far the worst metroid game ever created. 

Will you people stop blaming Team Ninja already. Sakamoto did the writing, and he insisted on the control scheme. WTF did Team Ninja do wrong?

Make the best 2D gameplay Metroid?

wat

Other M's gameplay is top notch.  They implemented an actual combat system.  It's quick and responsive.  As far as gameplay goes, it's probably the best "2D" Metroid made.  So in that respect the only "wrong" that Team Ninja did was make a fantastic game. 



KungKras on 06 September 2012
curl-6 said:
KungKras said:
curl-6 said:
KungKras said:
curl-6 said:
RolStoppable said:
curl-6 said:

Adventures was 99% on foot. It's still part of the series. And all the flashy graphics in the world can't cover up a fundamentally flawed concept and bland Zelda-lite gameplay.

You don't seem to understand the difference between a mainline game and a spinoff. Even if SFA was the worst game in the world, it would not have killed Star Fox, because people would have said that it was never a proper Star Fox game to begin with and the quality of the series would be judged on the next mainline entry. Which was the mediocre Assault, followed by the mediocre Command. These are also unsurprisingly the games with the worst sales in the series.

Spin-offs are still part of a series and contribute to its quality. The franchise went from good to crap with Adventures, hence that's the one that killed it. It even introduced the on-foot stuff that dragged down Assault.

 

And I too hope that Nintendo realise their mistake with Other M; they probably will given its sales, but they might just take those to mean "fans don't want new things" instead of "fans don't want new things that ruin the entire franchise."

I guess Mario & Sonic at the olympics series is killing the Mario franchise then. Worst platform game ever....

Luckily for Mario he has many other great games to outweigh is bad ones, and the Olympics series hasn't made all the ones since crap.

You're just not getting it.

There is a sharp difference between spinoff and mainline franchise. If Mario Kart started sucking, it would not kill the main platformer franchise. If Starfox Assault was good, Starfox adventures would have had no impact on the franchise.

Except that Adventures isn't a spinoff to the degree that those games are. It's storyline links in directly with the other games, it's treated as a sequel in every way but the style of gameplay, which is something that has changed within a series before. It doesn't have the"this doesn't count" vibe. And Assault's shortcomings, namly the on foot stuff, can be traced directly to Adventures. Assault sucked because of Adventures.

You're saying that as if gameplay isn't close to everything in a game. So what if the story ties in with the other games?

Also, there is nothing similar about the gameplay of Adventures and the on-foot missions in Assault. You could play on foot in Lylatwars as well.



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KungKras on 06 September 2012
darkknightkryta said:

Other M's gameplay is top notch.  They implemented an actual combat system.  It's quick and responsive.  As far as gameplay goes, it's probably the best "2D" Metroid made.  So in that respect the only "wrong" that Team Ninja did was make a fantastic game. 

I disagree Metroid is the best 2D Metroid to me.

What I mean is that Team Ninja probably did the best they could under the insane direction of Sakamoto.



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