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http://reason.com/archives/2012/08/20/the-wrong-side-absolutely-must-not-win

The past several weeks have made one thing crystal-clear: Our country faces unmitigated disaster if the Other Side wins.

No reasonably intelligent person can deny this. All you have to do is look at the way the Other Side has been running its campaign. Instead of focusing on the big issues that are important to the American People, it has fired a relentlessly negative barrage of distortions, misrepresentations, and flat-out lies.

Just look at the Other Side’s latest commercial, which take a perfectly reasonable statement by the candidate for My Side completely out of context to make it seem as if he is saying something nefarious. This just shows you how desperate the Other Side is and how willing it is to mislead the American People.

The Other Side also has been hammering away at My Side to release certain documents that have nothing to do with anything, and making all sorts of outrageous accusations about what might be in them. Meanwhile, the Other Side has stonewalled perfectly reasonable requests to release its own documents that would expose some very embarrassing details if anybody ever found out what was in them. This just shows you what a bunch of hypocrites they are.

Naturally, the media won’t report any of this. Major newspapers and cable networks jump all over anything they think will make My Side look bad. Yet they completely ignore critically important and incredibly relevant information that would be devastating to the Other Side if it could ever be verified.

 

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And that sums up partisan politics, being a console partisan and so on.

 



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The wrong side is the Republican's according to the article and I agree. They lie, spew anger and hatred and are massive hypocrites. The stuff some of say really makes me wonder how they still have a job and yet people still believe them!! It's all they are good at!! While others, ignore it. e.g recently Rush Limbaugh said Obama was "hopeful" that hurricane Isaac would hit Tampa during the GOP convention. I seriously don't get how he can say such nonsense!!

The democrats don't do that, they only occasionally fight back to that nonsense

All i know is, if Mitt Romney somehow becomes president, then America is fucked. It will probably sink faster then the titanic! As, he will do the similar policies to Bush (which caused the recession!) and it will likely make them bankrupt

Good article though



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the2real4mafol said:
The wrong side is the Republican's according to the article and I agree. They lie, spew anger and hatred and are massive hypocrites. The stuff some of say really makes me wonder how they still have a job and yet people still believe them!! It's all they are good at!! While others, ignore it. e.g recently Rush Limbaugh said Obama was "hopeful" that hurricane Isaac would hit Tampa during the GOP convention. I seriously don't get how he can say such nonsense!!

The democrats don't do that, they only occasionally fight back to that nonsense

All i know is, if Mitt Romney somehow becomes president, then America is fucked. It will probably sink faster then the titanic! As, he will do the similar policies to Bush (which caused the recession!) and it will likely make them bankrupt

Good article though


Are you being sarcastic or did you not get the point of the article?

For the most part, anything that can be said about one of the political parties has something that is roughly equal that can be said about the other.



HappySqurriel said:
the2real4mafol said:
The wrong side is the Republican's according to the article and I agree. They lie, spew anger and hatred and are massive hypocrites. The stuff some of say really makes me wonder how they still have a job and yet people still believe them!! It's all they are good at!! While others, ignore it. e.g recently Rush Limbaugh said Obama was "hopeful" that hurricane Isaac would hit Tampa during the GOP convention. I seriously don't get how he can say such nonsense!!

The democrats don't do that, they only occasionally fight back to that nonsense

All i know is, if Mitt Romney somehow becomes president, then America is fucked. It will probably sink faster then the titanic! As, he will do the similar policies to Bush (which caused the recession!) and it will likely make them bankrupt

Good article though


Are you being sarcastic or did you not get the point of the article?

For the most part, anything that can be said about one of the political parties has something that is roughly equal that can be said about the other.

The article is on the Libertarian leaning site called Reason.com.  It was a shot at a purely partisan and biased mentality.  If one walks away from the article thinking it is merely taking a shot at one side, and agrees that one side msut lose at all costs, then one misses the point of the article.  I would say, to have one side lose at all costs will costs the other side all.  Of course, one can end up saying one side is more like this than the other, but that is a separate article.

The article is akin to A Modest Proposal.



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richardhutnik said:
HappySqurriel said:
the2real4mafol said:
The wrong side is the Republican's according to the article and I agree. They lie, spew anger and hatred and are massive hypocrites. The stuff some of say really makes me wonder how they still have a job and yet people still believe them!! It's all they are good at!! While others, ignore it. e.g recently Rush Limbaugh said Obama was "hopeful" that hurricane Isaac would hit Tampa during the GOP convention. I seriously don't get how he can say such nonsense!!

The democrats don't do that, they only occasionally fight back to that nonsense

All i know is, if Mitt Romney somehow becomes president, then America is fucked. It will probably sink faster then the titanic! As, he will do the similar policies to Bush (which caused the recession!) and it will likely make them bankrupt

Good article though


Are you being sarcastic or did you not get the point of the article?

For the most part, anything that can be said about one of the political parties has something that is roughly equal that can be said about the other.

The article is on the Libertarian leaning site called Reason.com.  It was a shot at a purely partisan and biased mentality.  If one walks away from the article thinking it is merely taking a shot at one side, and agrees that one side msut lose at all costs, then one misses the point of the article.  I would say, to have one side lose at all costs will costs the other side all.  Of course, one can end up saying one side is more like this than the other, but that is a separate article.

The article is akin to A Modest Proposal.

I understood the article, I just thought that the2real4mafol's response was either very bizzarre or sarcastic ...

From the outside looking in the United States seems to have become a country where no one can even agree on the basic facts about anything; and a large portion of this is individuals who make their living misleading people and distorting information (Glen Beck, John Stewart, Rush Limbaugh, Stephen Colbert), and another big part of this is information bubbling (essentially, google searches will direct you to sources based on past viewing preferences and people tend to be exposed to information through bloggers who share similar worldviews to them).

You can see this in action on the Trayvon Martin shooting ... Half the country has seen undisputable evidence that Trayvon Martin abused over the counter medications which (over an extended period of time) can lead to unprovoked violent outbursts, while the other half of the country has seen undisputable evidence that George Zimmerman was a rent-a-cop with a dirty harry complex who stalked and murdered Trayvon Martin. Both are correct and neither are correct at the same time; it is likely that the facts presented to both are correct but the spin associated with them are distortions of reality.

When it comes to politics, each party's supporters have seen constant coverage of the abuses the opposing party has committed and the good their own party has done. The net result of this is that moderate supporters of each party find themselves drifting away from the center, and more solid supporters drift towards the extremes.



HappySqurriel said:
richardhutnik said:
HappySqurriel said:
the2real4mafol said:
The wrong side is the Republican's according to the article and I agree. They lie, spew anger and hatred and are massive hypocrites. The stuff some of say really makes me wonder how they still have a job and yet people still believe them!! It's all they are good at!! While others, ignore it. e.g recently Rush Limbaugh said Obama was "hopeful" that hurricane Isaac would hit Tampa during the GOP convention. I seriously don't get how he can say such nonsense!!

The democrats don't do that, they only occasionally fight back to that nonsense

All i know is, if Mitt Romney somehow becomes president, then America is fucked. It will probably sink faster then the titanic! As, he will do the similar policies to Bush (which caused the recession!) and it will likely make them bankrupt

Good article though


Are you being sarcastic or did you not get the point of the article?

For the most part, anything that can be said about one of the political parties has something that is roughly equal that can be said about the other.

The article is on the Libertarian leaning site called Reason.com.  It was a shot at a purely partisan and biased mentality.  If one walks away from the article thinking it is merely taking a shot at one side, and agrees that one side msut lose at all costs, then one misses the point of the article.  I would say, to have one side lose at all costs will costs the other side all.  Of course, one can end up saying one side is more like this than the other, but that is a separate article.

The article is akin to A Modest Proposal.

I understood the article, I just thought that the2real4mafol's response was either very bizzarre or sarcastic ...

From the outside looking in the United States seems to have become a country where no one can even agree on the basic facts about anything; and a large portion of this is individuals who make their living misleading people and distorting information (Glen Beck, John Stewart, Rush Limbaugh, Stephen Colbert), and another big part of this is information bubbling (essentially, google searches will direct you to sources based on past viewing preferences and people tend to be exposed to information through bloggers who share similar worldviews to them).

You can see this in action on the Trayvon Martin shooting ... Half the country has seen undisputable evidence that Trayvon Martin abused over the counter medications which (over an extended period of time) can lead to unprovoked violent outbursts, while the other half of the country has seen undisputable evidence that George Zimmerman was a rent-a-cop with a dirty harry complex who stalked and murdered Trayvon Martin. Both are correct and neither are correct at the same time; it is likely that the facts presented to both are correct but the spin associated with them are distortions of reality.

When it comes to politics, each party's supporters have seen constant coverage of the abuses the opposing party has committed and the good their own party has done. The net result of this is that moderate supporters of each party find themselves drifting away from the center, and more solid supporters drift towards the extremes.

My post I can't say was disagreeing with you, or saying you were wrong.   I believe I was adding to what you said here, with my own take on it.  So, it wasn't necessarily commenting on own opinion in any negative way, or saying you didn't understand it.  It was probably more like a call for people to NOT get partisan with the article, because the article goes into what being partisan is like.



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There are more than two options.


true, but there are only two options that have a chance of winning



It's actually kinda sad.

Up until the Welfare attacks by Mitt Romney, his campaign was actually taking the high road to some degree.

I imagine those attacks are what caused the article.

I would of liked to have seen what would of happened had Romney stayed on the relative "high road".

I wouldn't of voted for him, but I think a lot of moderates who like him better would have.