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VicViper on 22 August 2012
leatherhat said:

Are they including the window between Japanese and Western launches? I think they are meaning shipment totals would be 2.?? or something. 

No no, this is their shipment forecast for fiscal year 2012 (march-march). Same way they expect 16 million PS3+PS2




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leatherhat on 22 August 2012

I just went and checked ps3's sales for its first holiday. And it averaged around 178k weekly without European sales. Its second holiday and first ww holiday it did significantly better averaging 326k from the middle of October to the end of the year. So thats what one struggling console did in its first holiday. And vita would need to average 300k from now til the end of the year to break 8 million worldwide. So lets discuss the likelihood of that.



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dedede on 22 August 2012

Good question!



Mr Khan on 22 August 2012
Kasz216 said:
HappySqurriel said:
At the moment the PS-Vita is like a morbidly obese man who has had a heart attack, is in the ER talking to a doctor, and is in denial that there is anything wrong with him ...


More or less it... it's not dead, it's still on the market afterall.

Things just look really really bad from an objective point of view.

It's hard to even harken back to a console or handheld that was in such rough shape when it launched.

I mean... Virtual Boy?  I guess is the last one to do as bad or worse then the vita?

NGage like Basil said, or consoles from an era when gaming was occurring on a smaller scale, like the 3DO or the Jaguar



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superchunk on 22 August 2012
HappySqurriel said:
VicViper said:

The classic one is

http://www.ign.com/articles/2011/10/22/the-playstation-vita-is-set-to-succeed

"For better or for worse, Vita will be pitted against the Nintendo 3DS. But the comparison doesn't make a whole lot of sense, and even if you were to pit them against each other, Vita is still destined to sell better. "

Two months before launch. People were quite optimistic about Vita. The price at E3 was a god given gift to most. Heck, everybody here expected better, by little or by much . I know I did.


There were lots of people (myself included) that doubted the PS-Vita could be as successful as the 3DS. In my case I thought that the 3DS struggling at $250 demonstrated that consumers did not think a dedicated handheld was worth $250. I don't think anyone expected it to do this poorly though ...


I did. Right out the gate I said it should have been a different design entirely (a smartphone) and in its current shape it won't last but a couple years at best. I haven't claimed I was definitely right yet, as I'm waiting for this holiday to pass to see if it rebounds or not.

I still think the smartphone design that utilized carrier subsidizing with the only feature loss of the back trackpad would have been far more successful device. Especially for the target market of 16-25 yr olds. Hell I'm 36 and it would be my phone right now had that happened.



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leatherhat on 22 August 2012

I wish I could get some weekly dream cast numbers for comparison.



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leatherhat on 22 August 2012

I think I might do some averages for ds during its first holiday and psp while it was at its low point



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superchunk on 22 August 2012
leatherhat said:
I just went and checked ps3's sales for its first holiday. And it averaged around 178k weekly without European sales. Its second holiday and first ww holiday it did significantly better averaging 326k from the middle of October to the end of the year. So thats what one struggling console did in its first holiday. And vita would need to average 300k from now til the end of the year to break 8 million worldwide. So lets discuss the likelihood of that.

PS3s first holiday is really its 2nd. It launched with limited supply in November and was only in two markets.

Vitas first holiday will be this year with in in plenty of supply in every market. By now the PS3 was selling very well as compared to other first year consoles like the 360 all the while doing it at a $600 price point.

You really can't compare the two. PS3 was NEVER struggling in the same manner as Vita, not even close.



Runa216 on 22 August 2012

dude, it's been six fucking months, why does everyone WANT this system to fail?



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leatherhat on 22 August 2012

So psp managed to average 300k from mid october to the end of the year in 2010. Which I picked because it was probably not a banner year for the psp. Unfortunately it had MH3 in Japan which gave it a big boost that vita will obviously not have. Skewed the numbers a bit.



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