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happydolphin said:
Player1x3 said:

It still wasn't a hateful letter and he doesn't hate his son. Also, thinking something is wrong doesn't always mean you hate it

@bold. Yeah, but when it comes to the point of disowning, it's because the parent hates the lifestyle or choice of the child, no matter what that may be. It goes without saying.

Sexuality =/= lifestyle



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Sexuality obviously has a lot of influence on one's lifestyle



KungKras said:
happydolphin said:
Player1x3 said:

It still wasn't a hateful letter and he doesn't hate his son. Also, thinking something is wrong doesn't always mean you hate it

@bold. Yeah, but when it comes to the point of disowning, it's because the parent hates the lifestyle or choice of the child, no matter what that may be. It goes without saying.

Sexuality =/= lifestyle

You completely missed the point of my post. Did you even care to read it or just came in to correct all occurence of lifestyle with "Sexuality =/= lifestyle"?

To make the question even more difficult, is belief == lifestyle? Where do you draw the line?

I know for a fact that a race is absolutely not chosen and is not something one can choose to follow through on. I can't say the same about neither religion nor sexual orientation.



Icy-Zone said:
llewdebkram said:

And a single 3 letter word in that letter is to blame for all that hate and predjudice, the word being...

'GOD'

GOD and the bible is surely responsible for more hate, prejudice, intollerence and evil than anything else EVER in the history of mankind!

 


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More people have died in the name of atheism than by the name of God. Numbers hardly lie.

Nobody died in the name of atheism. Or did someone made an atheist crusade or an atheist burning of witches or an atheist inquisition? What you mean is, that religions aren't the only ideologies, that cause harm. Facism, Stalinism, Maoism and so on had many victims. Although these ideologies weren't religious, tehy didn't claim they had to kill you because they are atheists.



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going through some of this thread, I hope we're not using the action of one man to depict an entire faith....



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This is a serious topic, so Ill tread lightly.

This isnt an issue of tolerance so much as religious blasphemy. Christians have their beliefs and we are entitled to enforce them. That doesnt mean I hate homosexuals. I just believe that as a Christian you are to get married to the opposite sex to have a "biological" (key word) family. Also, many people want their legacy, their bloodline, to continue. To have a gay child means your entire family tree stops dead at that generation (biological one, again key word).

Was the father too harsh? Yes. More tolerance should have been applied. But from his point of view, as a father and a Christian, it must be upsetting that the child wont carry on the name and have that cliche picture perfect family.

But cases like this are actually not an issue compared to other religions. Not to deflect, but Islam/Muslim parents typically react much harsher to these types of situations.



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Frozone said:
Well the son did make the wrong choice so it's natural a father would act that way, I'm sure any father would be a bit ashamed if there offspring was gay. At least he did it in a polite manner though, just unfortunate for the son that he went down that road is all.

In your world, people choose what sex to be attracted to. In your world, it is natural for a father to block all connections with his son because of a supposed decision that won't harm anyone at all. In your world, any father would be ashamed if its offspring was gay.

That's sadder than I can describe.



sales2099 said:
This is a serious topic, so Ill tread lightly.

This isnt an issue of tolerance so much as religious blasphemy. Christians have their beliefs and we are entitled to enforce them. That doesnt mean I hate homosexuals. I just believe that as a Christian you are to get married to the opposite sex to have a "biological" (key word) family. Also, many people want their legacy, their bloodline, to continue. To have a gay child means your entire family tree stops dead at that generation (biological one, again key word).

Was the father too harsh? Yes. More tolerance should have been applied. But from his point of view, as a father and a Christian, it must be upsetting that the child wont carry on the name and have that cliche picture perfect family.

But cases like this are actually not an issue compared to other religions. Not to deflect, but Islam/Muslim parents typically react much harsher to these types of situations.


By adopting children their name will be passed down yet another generation. Heck, a surrogate mother could be used if the blood part is very important (for some reason).



Icy-Zone said:
This letter is actually full of love rather than hate, but most of you are too shallow to understand this. The father clearly has different values than the majority of the people posting here. According to the letter the father is a God fearing man, and he places his religious beliefs over all else. He loves his son because the father believes that his son's homosexuality will prevent the son from entering "paradise."

I am going to jump on this from a said Biblical view.  If he found out his son ended up regularly visiting prostitutes and not getting married, but slept around with women in a bunch of one night stands (say he also got them pregnant), do you seriously thinking that his father would of disowned him?  If you do, then I will back off here.  But, I would say it wouldn't happen.  Add adultery to the fornication charge I am saying here also.  The reality is that his father has a selective respect for the Bible, that is far more emotionally driven.  There are a bunch of other said sins in the Bible that his father would still accept his son over.  Heck, if he found out his son was a hitman, I am fairly sure his father wouldn't disown them.

What pretty much sickens me here is a selective application of things that lead to this state. 



KungKras said:
Marks said:
I wouldn't disown my kid if he was gay, but I certaintly wouldn't be proud of his lifestyle (choice).

People don't choose their sexuality.

This is still an arguable point. Biologically, the male is genetically made to be attracted to the female. So either its a choice, sexual confusion, or its an anomaly, given that the gay population is a vast, vast numerical minority.

Dont take anomaly as a insult, I meant it as a numerical comparison.  



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