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comawhite94 on 08 August 2012

I think of it like cameras. Smartphones are undoubtedly the most used cameras there are, but no one, even the smartphone users themselves, would ever compare their little 8 megapixel autofocus piece of crap to an actual DSLR camera, or any legitimate photography equipment. The same can be said of gaming. iOS will become the best selling game platform, but we will (probably) always be able to brag that we have 'real' games on our systems. As far as the future goes, I still severely doubt that any smartphone or tablet will be legitimate competition for dedicated gaming platforms because the average iPhone/iPad user really isn't interested in games like Cod, Halo, Zelda, Final Fantasy, etc.



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Euphoria14 on 08 August 2012
comawhite94 said:
I think of it like cameras. Smartphones are undoubtedly the most used cameras there are, but no one, even the smartphone users themselves, would ever compare their little 8 megapixel autofocus piece of crap to an actual DSLR camera, or any legitimate photography equipment. The same can be said of gaming. iOS will become the best selling game platform, but we will (probably) always be able to brag that we have 'real' games on our systems. As far as the future goes, I still severely doubt that any smartphone or tablet will be legitimate competition for dedicated gaming platforms because the average iPhone/iPad user really isn't interested in games like Cod, Halo, Zelda, Final Fantasy, etc.

What is a "Real game".

Please enlighten us.



iPhone = Great gaming device. Don't agree? Who cares, because you're wrong.

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Final Fantasy VI (iOS), Final Fantasy: Record Keeper (iOS) & Dragon Quest V (iOS)     

    

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Euphoria14 on 08 August 2012

LOL!

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=146227

"The exploding popularity of mobile/ social sector has developers anxious to shift focus to that growing market, according to Yoshida."



iPhone = Great gaming device. Don't agree? Who cares, because you're wrong.

Currently playing:

Final Fantasy VI (iOS), Final Fantasy: Record Keeper (iOS) & Dragon Quest V (iOS)     

    

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Argh_College on 08 August 2012
YukanaSenix said:
Argh_College said:

According to Apple, there are currently more than 130 million Game Center accounts, which means iOS devices are already more popular than home consoles like the PlayStation 3, the Xbox 360, and the Nintendo Wii. In fact, it’s currently the world’s third-largest gaming platform.

But Asymco expects Game Center to surpass 200 million users by the end of 2012, putting Apple’s platform way out in front, ahead of the Nintendo DS — the best-selling console to date. “No gaming device has ever reached the 200 million mark,” Asymco says.

If you look at OpenFeint figures, a third-party gaming platform on iOS, there are already more than 180 million people gaming on iOS devices.

Of course, it wouldn’t be accurate to look at sales figures alone, because not everyone who purchases an iOS device uses it for gaming. So Game Center and OpenFeint accounts are the most accurate way of determining the figures. Even then, you need to bear in mind that some users could have more than just one Game Center or OpenFeint account.

http://www.cultofmac.com/183374/appl...d-of-the-year/

Sure this is pure bs as we all know Call of Duty Mw3 or Black Ops or Black Ops 2 Alone makes more money than the entire app store has done to date since it was launched. Just one Game from that Saga.

Sure it has alot of players, even i played on Iphone and Ipad once and never touched it again such a horrible Experience with GTA 3.

Iphone sells because it is a phone not because it plays games i think Apple doesnt get it haha if it only played games it would be dead against 3DS and Vita wich are far far far far superior to the bs that Iphone is for gaming.


iOS and Android soon will overtake homeconsoles
Especially Android will have a big part cause it is in absolutely everything...TVs,Ouya(has a lot of support),Consoles(probably teamed up with Sony),Windows and even your fridge.

The game that made the most money in terms of work and time they did invest for EPIC isn't a game from the Gears of War Franchise.
It is an iOS Game - Infinity Blade.
A lot of Developers see the potential of those devices and they make a LOT money with them without putting a lot of effort in it.
Those devices get stronger and stronger too at the same time and will soon catch up to consoles,even the Next Gen consoles cause Smartphones,Tablets and everything get a yearly update.
Streaming will be a big part in the future and soon you can play your games on the way too.

Argh_College said:

Casual gaming, not serious gaming.

Profits probably none, Revenue all together not even close to Halo 4 or Black Ops 2 this year.

Mobile gaming isnt a threat, in fact its a joke and developers wont really care about it once Vita starts getting good sales like 3DS.

Halo and CoD have nothing to do with Serious Gaming.
Those are aimed at casuals more than games like Chaos Rings 1+2(iOS RPGs) - Halo and CoD are the Justin Bieber of Gaming.
Making a lot of money from little kids - And this is a fact.Those are twitch and casual shooters that did hurt SERIOUS gaming a lot in this Gen.
And if games like those are called now serious gaming by kids that grow up with that garbage then Angry Birds and stuff will count as that soon too.

A Shooter that has a place in Serious Gaming?Battlefield 3 on PC.Next Gen graphics,perfect and deep gameplay and a mature community.You have to learn the game.
CoD is the complete opposite - Jumping in,being the king after 20 mins playing and threaten other people over Mic....A casual twitch shooter.No arguing about that.There is nothing serious about this Franchise.Its aimed at the kids that want to be cool at school.

LOL either you are a very bad player or i dont know. 

BF3 is the easiset game ever made, anyone can play that game and get a killstreak of 30, please that game is easy and doesnt require any skill at all, in fact Cod requires more skill than BF3 wich just says everything because Cod doesnt even require that much skill at all.

Halo is a serious game you dont know what you are talking about, it is the best and most competitive game on consoles and overall just sit behind the legend that is StarCraft 2 that are Real games for serious hardcore gamers that like to compete and learn how to play the game better, not IOS games or Bf3 ffs learn how to play Halo because it takes shitloads of skill unlike Bf3 wich is a pure joke. Great game sure i love it bue even my brother can play it and get 30/1 scores. On Halo he kills 1 guy with lucky.

I ca agree that Cod is aiming at Kids and doesnt require that much skill but so is BF3, BF3 is easier than Cod, in fact BF3 is the easiest MP Game i´ve ever played but its also one of the best, i love the game but dont come to tell me the game requires skill because that only shows one thing about you is that you are a very casual player. im sorry but fact is fact.

Want Games that take shitloads of skill ?

Go Play Halo 2,Halo 3, Reach, Counter Strike, Unreal, Quake, Gears of War, StarCraft 2 and some others im forgetting right now.

But dont come to say me BF3 is skilled or even team worked because everyone runs around the map alone and ffs dont tell me the game is hard BECAUSE IT IS THE EASIEST GAME EVER MADE ONLINE, YOU KILL WITH 1 BULLET.



Argh_College on 08 August 2012

Oh and if you are saying Halo community is just 12year old kids than you clearly dont know what you are talking about.

As Part of Halo Strong community i feel bad and furious by those comment, we are all but stupid 10 years old, Halo players have grow with Xbox and in fact the avarage age might very well be above 21 years old.

i dont care anyway, sick of hearing nonsense shit of people that never played the game anyway.

Have a nice day.



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mrstickball on 08 August 2012
sethnintendo said:
mrstickball said:


The issue with iOS entirely deals with the issue of application/game discovery. The article wfz cited earlier shows that: The most successful developers spend about $30,000 on average for marketing. That helps with discovery, which then helps titles jump up the various charts, which then helps with additional discovery, as users aren't going to venture outside of the top-200 lists often.

Such an ecosystem in the internet age can survive and thrive. The analogy with Atari is a poor one in some cases, because the issue was that users had no way of rating or ranking good titles against the crappy ones on the shelves at a local store. With iOS and Android, you have user ratings and other ranking services that allow for a real-time feed that allows users to rate quality games, and discourage shoddy games from purchase.

The same can be said about the internet: The internet is so vast, and available to everyone, so how does one even discover new sites? How do new sites generate user interest in a world where they may be competing not against dozens, but millions of other sites? Marketing, which results in new ways for user discovery.

That is the key. Most iOS developers are incredibly stupid when it comes to discovery, thus why you have about 5% of apps generating 90% of revenues. However, if you look at how large the pie is, it is an incredibly attractive picture, because top-200 games are generating thousands, if not tens of thousands of dollars daily.

Yea, apparently there is a flood of developers that aren't on top of their game.  I suppose the main thing that sticks out to me would be Android related which I mentioned a little on my first response (fragmentation).  Android might be wrecking shop over iOS but there is a huge fragmentation problem that I see.  While it isn't a very big problem it still seems to piss off a decent amount of people.  Just look at most games on the Android market and you see the same comments (doesn't work, force closes, freezes, sound freezes, no sound, etc).  The fragmentation has led to an environment on Android where even if it says it is compatible with your phone an update could change that instantly (cause crashes, etc).   I was looking for a chart about the fragmentation and it led me to a site that pretty much stated that it was the cell phone carriers fault for not allowing updates , etc.

You don't know exactly what will work even if it says it will work on Android.  Case in point: Look at almost all the EA games on the Android market (Life, Monopoly, Need for Speed).  Users nail them like crazy on the comments / reviews because their games just don't work with a decent amount of phones and this is from a publisher as big as EA (not really saying too much but still..).


Android does certainly have major problems with how games are developed and deployed. Fragmentation was, and is a huge issue which has resulted in a pretty disasterous economy for the system - few paid titles do well, with the lion's share of revenues coming from freemium games with ads or additional purchases.

But you can't throw the baby out with the bathwater. Its in Google's best interest to fix the fragmentation issue. They can do that by slowing down how fast new OSes come out, and try to deploy at least some standards. One should note that PCs and game development on PCs have faced similar issues, that have been mostly overcome. It'll still take some time, but I think they're moving in the right direction.



Back from the dead, I'm afraid.

mrstickball on 08 August 2012
Soriku said:
iOS/Android dominate cheap free to $4.99 games and the dedicated gaming systems dominate everything else. Sounds fine to me.

iOS/Android might have your occasional small-time original FF game or something, but they're not a replacement for dedicated gaming systems which receive higher quality games, even if they're not as popular as Angry Birds.


I don't think "Dominate" is a proper word. You're seeing more and more developers go for the >$4.99 market like Square Enix and Rockstar. Both are doing pretty well in that field. Do you think that, 4 years ago, iOS would be getting direct DS ports from major studios like Square? Few would have argued it, yet here we are.

Over the next 3-5 years, you're going to see a lot of major studios begin to port their titles to Smartphones. Eventually, they'll be day-and-date releases of the same product. When that happens, it'll only be a small hop and leap to major studios pushing iOS/Android harder than dedicated systems with lower profit margins.



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Euphoria14 on 08 August 2012
Argh_College said:
Oh and if you are saying Halo community is just 12year old kids than you clearly dont know what you are talking about.

As Part of Halo Strong community i feel bad and furious by those comment, we are all but stupid 10 years old, Halo players have grow with Xbox and in fact the avarage age might very well be above 21 years old.

i dont care anyway, sick of hearing nonsense shit of people that never played the game anyway.

Have a nice day.

Is that not the same exact thing you are doing in this very thread when it comes to games on iOS?



iPhone = Great gaming device. Don't agree? Who cares, because you're wrong.

Currently playing:

Final Fantasy VI (iOS), Final Fantasy: Record Keeper (iOS) & Dragon Quest V (iOS)     

    

Got a retro room? Post it here!

Argh_College on 08 August 2012
Euphoria14 said:
Argh_College said:
Oh and if you are saying Halo community is just 12year old kids than you clearly dont know what you are talking about.

As Part of Halo Strong community i feel bad and furious by those comment, we are all but stupid 10 years old, Halo players have grow with Xbox and in fact the avarage age might very well be above 21 years old.

i dont care anyway, sick of hearing nonsense shit of people that never played the game anyway.

Have a nice day.

Is that not the same exact thing you are doing in this very thread when it comes to games on iOS?

im sorry to disapoint you but 5 friends of mine have Iphone and 2 Ipads so no, i´ve already played some Iphone games, i like fruit Ninja and Angry Birds but those are games to play when you are in a line on the supermarket, when you are bored in a trip or something like that.

Anyway i guess i have to play that Epic Game people say its awesome.



comawhite94 on 08 August 2012
Euphoria14 said:
comawhite94 said:
I think of it like cameras. Smartphones are undoubtedly the most used cameras there are, but no one, even the smartphone users themselves, would ever compare their little 8 megapixel autofocus piece of crap to an actual DSLR camera, or any legitimate photography equipment. The same can be said of gaming. iOS will become the best selling game platform, but we will (probably) always be able to brag that we have 'real' games on our systems. As far as the future goes, I still severely doubt that any smartphone or tablet will be legitimate competition for dedicated gaming platforms because the average iPhone/iPad user really isn't interested in games like Cod, Halo, Zelda, Final Fantasy, etc.

What is a "Real game".

Please enlighten us.


Hardcore games. The Zeldas, Metroids, Halo's, Metal Gears, Final Fantasy, Gears of War, Grand Theft Auto, etc. 



Babble babble bitch bitch rebel rebel party party sex sex sex and don't forget the violence. Blah blah blah got your lovey-dovey sad and lonely stick your stupid slogan in. Everybody sing along.