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pezus said:

Is that still autocorrect at work? I'm guessing it is supposed to say "first".

Alright, I'll give you that not having to wear glasses is a minor innovation for handhelds lol. I personally would not call it innovation though, because the 3D is worse than 3D with glasses and it is all to be able to do something different just for the sake of it (improved or not). 


Seriously, it's not.

(personal experience) - it blurs a lot less in action sequences. A lot!

(technical point) It does not darks the image. And has degrees too.



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VicViper said:
pezus said:

Is that still autocorrect at work? I'm guessing it is supposed to say "first".

Alright, I'll give you that not having to wear glasses is a minor innovation for handhelds lol. I personally would not call it innovation though, because the 3D is worse than 3D with glasses and it is all to be able to do something different just for the sake of it (improved or not). 


Seriously, it's not.

(personal experience) - it blurs a lot less in action sequences. A lot!

(technical point) It does not darks the image. And has degrees too.

It has a very specific viewing angle though. I do not see any blur in today's 3D technology either. And the image darkening is negligible. Also it seems to give headaches after a short while, a problem I have not noticed with glasses for a while. 



pezus said:

It has a very specific viewing angle though. I do not see any blur in today's 3D technology either. And the image darkening is negligible. Also it seems to give headaches after a short while, a problem I have not noticed with glasses for a while. 

To me only the viewing angle is a problem, but you soon get used to fit your eyes in it - especially if you don't go all out on the 3D slider. The rest, I consider everything far superior. Darkening is not negligible, imo, colors become much more bland and lifeless. And the blurring sometimes gets critical. I watched Hugo Cabret and it worked most of the time great - since there's a lot of quiet scenes (with lots and lots of first-plane gears for you to admire). But Tintin (last action 3D movie I saw - no more of that for me thanks) sometimes gets so frantic that my eyes can't catch up and the 3D image melts like butter. And yet, Kid Icarus on the maximum 3D degree on difficult 9 works great.

Anyway, the point is. It's not superior. Maybe to you, but to me and others, it's not. And is innovative. Even today, if you show your 3DS to people they get amazed.



Pezus said
"There is no data except feedback from this very forum. Most people appear to turn it off, at least the biggest gamers here I see. And that is besides the point. 3D is not innovative in any way. Even PS3 does 3D.

You could do some research yourself. I don't even know of a game that doesn't use the back screen in some form."

1. Wrong, most 3DS gamers say the dont use it at full power

2. I think, by the articles i read about it, that the game that uses the back touch panel the most/best is FIFA soccer....enough said.....its an irrelevant feature and a gimmick (that doesnt even work as a gimmick)
but its innovative, ill give you that....

3D is not innovative by itself
a glasses free 3D handheld is innovative, or at least unique



Allo.



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I thought someone quote me here. I guess not.

I will say that in a lot of games the 3D effect on the 3DS is really cool. I have not had any problems with it and can play with the 3D at about 75 percent for hours.



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pezus said:

Is that still autocorrect at work? I'm guessing it is supposed to say "first".

Alright, I'll give you that not having to wear glasses is a minor innovation for handhelds lol. I personally would not call it innovation though, because the 3D is worse than 3D with glasses and it is all to be able to do something different just for the sake of it (improved or not). 

 

THis, I thought i was the only one. Glasses>no glasses.  I find the 3D glasses gives you a more immersive felling. I prefer the pop out of the screen effect more than the depth window effect. Thats not me taking a jab at  3DS i have the damn thing and i enjoy it, but i find myself rarely using the 3D feature, and this is coming from the guy who thought the 3D would do for the 3DS what motion controls and touch screen did for Wii and DS respectively 



jonnybmk said:
spurgeonryan said:

 

DS – 648,641

360 – 1,720,000
PS3 – 1,379,200
Wii – 812,800
3DS – 1,051,741

Vita – 638,400

 

Yikes. Cue the "Vita needs LBP, AC, CoD, etc etc etc" comments.

I'll keep repeating my comment "Vita needs a price drop".

The 3DS needs software just as badly as Vita does. For the 2nd year straight, Nintendo is relying on a Mario to keep sales above 'subpar', while bringing nothing else of value over from Japan or by releasing timed-exclusive games for the West. Nintendo of America has been absolutely terrible for going on 3 years. To be honest, even if Japan's major hits would not sell more than 250k here, that is still ~250k Nintendo is not making profit from.

I personally haven't purchased a 3DS and do not plan on it because of this. Their strategy just screams tired.



Leatherhat on July 6th, 2012 3pm. Vita sales:"3 mil for COD 2 mil for AC. Maybe more. "  thehusbo on July 6th, 2012 5pm. Vita sales:"5 mil for COD 2.2 mil for AC."

the less the sales are the fewer games they will come from JAPAN
its a deadly spiral
its always been like that
its users fault
Nintendo only brings to the west games that are going to sell, theres no enough demand for those games nop matter how good they are
its a bussines decission, and you cant blame Ninty for that, but users that dont buy Japanese games



SaviorX said:

The 3DS needs software just as badly as Vita does. For the 2nd year straight, Nintendo is relying on a Mario to keep sales above 'subpar', while bringing nothing else of value over from Japan or by releasing timed-exclusive games for the West. Nintendo of America has been absolutely terrible for going on 3 years. To be honest, even if Japan's major hits would not sell more than 250k here, that is still ~250k Nintendo is not making profit from.

I personally haven't purchased a 3DS and do not plan on it because of this. Their strategy just screams tired.

The best-selling 3DS game in the West released this year is Kid Icarus: Uprising. Not a Mario game. Not a timed exclusive. Next in America is Resident Evil, a 3rd-party title. Soon, Kingdom Hearts 3D will join those two.

So far this year, Nintendo has released only a single Mario game in the West, and it hasn't sold very well. What's keeping the 3DS "above subpar" is mostly strong third-party support. The console would continue selling "above subpar" for the rest of the year without Mario games; instead, it will sell like hotcakes.

As of NoA, I am aware of only one first-party 3DS game that isn't being localized this year: Fire Emblem. It's coming next year, so hold your horses. NoA doesn't decide what games get localized, anyway; NoJ does.