Fantastic day for science, kind of makes me regret deciding against doing physics at university so i could understand it a bit better :)
Fantastic day for science, kind of makes me regret deciding against doing physics at university so i could understand it a bit better :)
spurgeonryan said: Yes! Humans 1/ God 0. What does all this mean? I am about as smart as a 12th grader that has been home schooled on the show Wife Swap. Is this the experiment about the big bang theory? ( Not the show) |
I'll try and explain it simply.
You know that the vast majority of space in the atoms is empty, right? If you were to condense all of the emplty space out of the atoms, you could fit the entire human race in the space of this next full stop. Roughly. If that doesn't do it for you, then imagine the nucleus of an atom (where all the mass is) is the size of a tennis ball, then the electrons around it would be about 2km away. The rest is empty space.
But what combines all of the stuff in the nuclues together? There has to be some force between them, because one is positive (protons) and the other neutral (neutrons). That's where the Higgs Boson comes in. It acts as 'glue' to 'stick' the particles together, which is what gives them their mass, shape and characteristics. It's pretty much what creates everything we see, hence it is considered the God Particle. It's actually a field called the Higgs Field, but I don't wish to complicate matters.
Uses? Who knows. But it took 3 decades to understand the Nucleus and DNA after they were found. Now look what we can do with them.
Conegamer said:
But what combines all of the stuff in the nuclues together? There has to be some force between them, because one is positive (protons) and the other neutral (neutrons). That's where the Higgs Boson comes in. It acts as 'glue' to 'stick' the particles together, which is what gives them their mass, shape and characteristics. It's pretty much what creates everything we see, hence it is considered the God Particle. It's actually a field called the Higgs Field, but I don't wish to complicate matters. |
Not completely right. It just gives particles mass, nothing else about them and nothing to do with the nucleus. It's not a glue, and "God Particle" is a terrible name for it as it didn't create anything.
Particles interact with each other via the four fundamental forces - electromagnetic, strong nuclear (quarks), weak nuclear (beta-decay), and gravity. Most everything we observe on a human scale is due to electromagnetism (example: not falling through the floor because of repulsion).
So.
Can we get augumented with that?
Or light speed travel?
Or create a shrink ray?
I hope so. These 10 billion dollars and labor of thousands of people better pay off eventually.
Soleron said:
Not completely right. It just gives particles mass, nothing else about them and nothing to do with the nucleus. It's not a glue, and "God Particle" is a terrible name for it as it didn't create anything. Particles interact with each other via the four fundamental forces - electromagnetic, strong nuclear (quarks), weak nuclear (beta-decay), and gravity. Most everything we observe on a human scale is due to electromagnetism (example: not falling through the floor because of repulsion). |
Yeah, I was just trying to 'dumb it down' as it were. I know it's not Glue, and everyone calls it the God Particle, even if it is a horrific name.
The key for me is, out of those 4 fundamental forces, Gravity is by far the weakest. The Higgs Boson helps to explain that, no?
Conegamer said: Yeah, I was just trying to 'dumb it down' as it were. I know it's not Glue, and everyone calls it the God Particle, even if it is a horrific name. The key for me is, out of those 4 fundamental forces, Gravity is by far the weakest. The Higgs Boson helps to explain that, no? |
No, the Higgs Boson just explains why some particles are massless and others have mass. Trying to unify the forces is a whole different beast, so they hope to have string theory proven for that. Though they already unified electromagnetic force and weak nuclear force, they just need to unify strong force and gravity with electro-weak.
Slimebeast said:
How come? |
I don't really know. It's not that I don't care, I do. I just read this news now and I don't get particularly excited, it's more of a case of "Ok, that's been discovered, let's move on", where before I would want to explain it to everyone and argue about it.
I'm not like that with own field and related fields, I can still get excited about that.
they should let sheldon explain this in big bang theory, now this would be awesome and i bet pretty confusing
crissindahouse said: they should let sheldon explain this in big bang theory, now this would be awesome and i bet pretty confusing |
Beyond the level of explanation given in the news, one would need to start using some very difficult maths (second year university at least, plus quantum mechanics). There's no good intermediate explanation.