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spurgeonryan said:
Did the director of the last two bourne films not collaborate on Casino Royale ? I think you miss the point. They may be copying as well, but they modernized it. Something that the Brosnan movies could not make happen.

The recent Craig Bond movies then copied that brutal modernization of the bourne movies. I am not good at verbalizing what I am trying to explain so maybe that explained it better.



No, the director of Casino Royale was Martin Campbell.  He was the same guy theat directed GoldenEye.  As far as I'm concerned, he should direct al of them now as he is much better than any of the other modern Bond directors.

I don't about the Bond movies copying brutality.  If you read the old Ian Fleming books, they are extremely violent and that's what influenced the films Casino Royale and Quantum of Solace.  The reason that I believe that the movies in the 60's and 70's were less violent and more humorous was because that was the only way that they could get away with the Bond character at the time.  In today's age you can get away with the gritty, brutal, and real James Bond.  As I said, it might not be the classic cinema Bond, but it's the classic literary Bond.  They tried to go along these lines before with Lazenby and Dalton, but people weren't ready for it as much as they are now for whatever reason.  I think that Licence To Kill is more violent than either of the Craig movies to underline my point.  



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Great review! I'd give Casino Royale the same score. It features awesome chase scenes (the parkour one at the beginning is my favorite) and a good straightforward plot.

I agree with you that the film is not humorless, in fact Bond telling Le Chiffre "I've got a little itch, down there. Would you mind?" was one of the funniest line in a Bond movie ever.

You did touch on the product placement a little but I just wanted to say that the airport scene is ridiculous in how obvious they make it (especially Smirnoff vodka and Sony TVs).

Finally, I need your help amp!!! Is Mathis a bad guy or not? I thought he was after Le Chiffre told James "Your friend Mathis is really my friend Mathis" but in Quantum of Solace, they seem to get along just fine.



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spurgeonryan said:
I still have not seen License to kill at Half priced books, hopefully someday it will show up on Vhs.

Then the bourne movies are copying the original material and they both just happen to have the same type of pacing and action.

What's with you and VHS? Don't you know that DVD players are like 30 bucks or less nowadays?



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TruckOSaurus said:
Great review! I'd give Casino Royale the same score. It features awesome chase scenes (the parkour one at the beginning is my favorite) and a good straightforward plot.

I agree with you that the film is not humorless, in fact Bond telling Le Chiffre "I've got a little itch, down there. Would you mind?" was one of the funniest line in a Bond movie ever.

You did touch on the product placement a little but I just wanted to say that the airport scene is ridiculous in how obvious they make it (especially Smirnoff vodka and Sony TVs).

Finally, I need your help amp!!! Is Mathis a bad guy or not? I thought he was after Le Chiffre told James "Your friend Mathis is really my friend Mathis" but in Quantum of Solace, they seem to get along just fine.

In Quantum Of Solace it was all revealed that Mathis is not a bad guy at all (Vesper set Bond up, but was also behind White not killing him - she was to give him the money).  Unfortunately, something horrible happens to Mathis.  Poor guy, always getting the short end of the stick.



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spurgeonryan said:
I still have not seen License to kill at Half priced books, hopefully someday it will show up on Vhs.

Then the bourne movies are copying the original material and they both just happen to have the same type of pacing and action.

I don't know about that.  The Bond movies don't have any half hour long car chases.  Heck, the entire Bourne trilogy is a chase scene.  I'm honestly not trying to bad mouth the Bourne trilogy, as I do like it but the Craig Bond movies aren't that similar in my eyes and I do find them to be superior.  Let's face it, the Bourne movies don't have much of a story except that he has amnesia, is being chased, and doesn't know why. 



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Another cool thing the car flip won a guinness world record.

You should get the blu ray version has a lot of cool extra's. Anyways cant wait for the Quantum of Solace review maybe then I can finally understand the plot :)



 

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Another cool thing the car flip won a guinness world record.

You should get the blu ray version has a lot of cool extra's. Anyways cant wait for the Quantum of Solace review maybe then I can finally understand the plot :)


Yeah, I'm still stuck in the world of DVDs.  I suppose that it's a set up from VHS though. 

How many flips did it actually do?  Do you remember?



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amp316 said:
TruckOSaurus said:
Great review! I'd give Casino Royale the same score. It features awesome chase scenes (the parkour one at the beginning is my favorite) and a good straightforward plot.

I agree with you that the film is not humorless, in fact Bond telling Le Chiffre "I've got a little itch, down there. Would you mind?" was one of the funniest line in a Bond movie ever.

You did touch on the product placement a little but I just wanted to say that the airport scene is ridiculous in how obvious they make it (especially Smirnoff vodka and Sony TVs).

Finally, I need your help amp!!! Is Mathis a bad guy or not? I thought he was after Le Chiffre told James "Your friend Mathis is really my friend Mathis" but in Quantum of Solace, they seem to get along just fine.

In Quantum Of Solace it was all revealed that Mathis is not a bad guy at all (Vesper set Bond up, but was also behind White not killing him - she was to give him the money).  Unfortunately, something horrible happens to Mathis.  Poor guy, always getting the short end of the stick.

So why is Le Chiffre under the impression that Mathis is his friend? I always figured it was Mathis who told Le Chiffre about the tell.



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amp316 said:
TruckOSaurus said:
Great review! I'd give Casino Royale the same score. It features awesome chase scenes (the parkour one at the beginning is my favorite) and a good straightforward plot.

I agree with you that the film is not humorless, in fact Bond telling Le Chiffre "I've got a little itch, down there. Would you mind?" was one of the funniest line in a Bond movie ever.

You did touch on the product placement a little but I just wanted to say that the airport scene is ridiculous in how obvious they make it (especially Smirnoff vodka and Sony TVs).

Finally, I need your help amp!!! Is Mathis a bad guy or not? I thought he was after Le Chiffre told James "Your friend Mathis is really my friend Mathis" but in Quantum of Solace, they seem to get along just fine.

In Quantum Of Solace it was all revealed that Mathis is not a bad guy at all (Vesper set Bond up, but was also behind White not killing him - she was to give him the money).  Unfortunately, something horrible happens to Mathis.  Poor guy, always getting the short end of the stick.

So why is Le Chiffre under the impression that Mathis is his friend? I always figured it was Mathis who told Le Chiffre about the tell.


I always just though that he was lying about Mathis being his friend just because bad guys lie...  Also, I assumed that Le Chiffre was such a good poker player that he picked up on Bond seeing the tell and did a fake tell.  



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