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Andrespetmonkey on 14 June 2012
Aielyn said:
It's a simple solution to the problem that the 360 and PS3 suffered - 10 different configurations of the console, depending on when you bought it, including 2-3 different configurations at any point in time.

Instead, the Wii U will be the same basic configuration irrespective of when you buy it, but you can connect any HDD you want. Since the HDD is market price, and independent of the system, it becomes trivial for people to buy, say, a 160 GB HDD, and not cause any problems. And the consumer wins, because market forces apply to regular HDDs, whereas specialised HDDs (like the PS3 and 360 use) are controlled by Sony and MS, and thus are not subject to market forces.

The PS3 doesn't use proprietary HDDs like 360, uses 2.5 inch sata laptop HDs. I have an 80gb model, but I use the 500gb HD from my old laptop as well.



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ryuzaki57 on 14 June 2012

The question is : can you run downloaded games or patches from an external HDD?



 

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sales2099 on 14 June 2012

its gonna be a needed attachment then.

Its astonishing how Nintendo is so successful yet now remains 7 years in the past business wise.



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mantlepiecek on 14 June 2012

Wow. How stupid is Nintendo to ship their consoles without HDD. I am simply amazed. This was one of the problems for the 360 according to John Carmack, this WILL be a problem for the wiiu as well.

8 GB flash drive is there though. So maybe the devs could try and make games that require installation but 8 GB will in no way be sufficient and expecting everyone to upgrade their HDDs will be a joke.



mantlepiecek on 14 June 2012
Andrespetmonkey said:
Aielyn said:
It's a simple solution to the problem that the 360 and PS3 suffered - 10 different configurations of the console, depending on when you bought it, including 2-3 different configurations at any point in time.

Instead, the Wii U will be the same basic configuration irrespective of when you buy it, but you can connect any HDD you want. Since the HDD is market price, and independent of the system, it becomes trivial for people to buy, say, a 160 GB HDD, and not cause any problems. And the consumer wins, because market forces apply to regular HDDs, whereas specialised HDDs (like the PS3 and 360 use) are controlled by Sony and MS, and thus are not subject to market forces.

The PS3 doesn't use proprietary HDDs like 360, uses 2.5 inch sata laptop HDs. I have an 80gb model, but I use the 500gb HD from my old laptop as well.

The 360 doesn't use proprietary HDDs either. It uses the same HDD the PS3 uses, but there is a convenient covering that helps in ease of removal, and also in pricing it at an arms length.



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happydolphin on 14 June 2012
maverick40 said:
happydolphin said:
Arcturus said:
Has Nintendo confirmed that any external HDD will be compatible?

Yah!
http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/news/30582

So if people want to get DLC for a game, they have to buy an external hard drive too?

Good question. I don't think so honestly, but it hasn't been officially confirmed. I wouldn't see why not though.

It all depends on the size of the DLC, Mav.

Also remember that DLC is still a very hobbyist item at the moment, until things change.

Hobbyists should pay extra for their hobby imho, especially if they are given the option for what they need. Those that don't need it don't pay, it's a sound approach.



Andrespetmonkey on 14 June 2012
mantlepiecek said:
Andrespetmonkey said:
Aielyn said:
It's a simple solution to the problem that the 360 and PS3 suffered - 10 different configurations of the console, depending on when you bought it, including 2-3 different configurations at any point in time.

Instead, the Wii U will be the same basic configuration irrespective of when you buy it, but you can connect any HDD you want. Since the HDD is market price, and independent of the system, it becomes trivial for people to buy, say, a 160 GB HDD, and not cause any problems. And the consumer wins, because market forces apply to regular HDDs, whereas specialised HDDs (like the PS3 and 360 use) are controlled by Sony and MS, and thus are not subject to market forces.

The PS3 doesn't use proprietary HDDs like 360, uses 2.5 inch sata laptop HDs. I have an 80gb model, but I use the 500gb HD from my old laptop as well.

The 360 doesn't use proprietary HDDs either. It uses the same HDD the PS3 uses, but there is a convenient covering that helps in ease of removal, and also in pricing it at an arms length.

Oh ok, I just thought they were because of the price, and you can't use any others.



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d21lewis on 14 June 2012

I already have a 500 GB HD that I share between my PC, PS3, and 360 (16GB limit). It doesn't phase me. Day one purchase--in fact, as soon as Gamestop starts taking pre-orders, I'm paying mine off that exact same day. November is right around the corner.



Panama on 14 June 2012

It's one of the many reasons why we'll be 'pleasantly surprised' with its price. Along with the 5 hour controller life.

Also it just leaves the door open for Nintendo proprietary HDDs which is very unNintendolike. SD cards are cheap enough at this stage even if they are inefficient for a console, seems like the kind of route Nintendo are heading for with the Wii U. An external HDD certainly isn't out of the question though. It will be for 'core' gamers if they do bother marketing it.



Conegamer on 14 June 2012

*sigh*

You've really set people off again this time, you know! I don't know how you do it...

People seem to be missing the point. 8GB of internal memory is more than enough for 95% of the people who'll be buying the WiiU; i.e. anyone who doesn't frequent a gaming forum. Because most people just wish to save games, and maybe install one or two VC/WiiUWare games. 8GB will be plenty for this. Anyone else will have to use an SD card (which may be included), or a HDD (of which they likely have banging around anyway). The only thing that happens when you don't include a HDD is that you can reduce the price rather significantly (look at the difference in prices of the HD consoles), which is surely a good thing, no?

Just relax, guys. This is a good idea IMO.



 

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