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At 5:30 a.m. on May 10, armed men broke into the bedroom of Kirk Kyle Farrar’s 12 year-old daughter and shook her awake. The men led her downstairs at gunpoint and forced her to lie on the floor next to her mother and father, with her hands behind her head. Another armed man took Farrar’s two-year-old son from his crib, and would not let his parents hold him. “My son screamed for his mother for what seemed like an eternity,” Farrar wrote in an email to friends, obtained by Reason. “I will never forget the hopeless feeling of not being able to comfort my son or daughter.” The men were federal and local police officers, and they were arresting Farrar for selling bongs and glass pipes. 

http://reason.com/blog/2012/05/20/a-report-from-obamas-humane-drug-war-my



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*Sigh*

This war on drugs is just ridiculous. It really needs to end.



I thought bongs and glass pipes were perfectly legal, it's just the stuff you put in them that isn't.

I mean they sell them at all kinds of shops, so why the hell aren't the cops closing down these stores instead of breaking into people's homes?



On 2/24/13, MB1025 said:
You know I was always wondering why no one ever used the dollar sign for $ony, but then I realized they have no money so it would be pointless.

NightDragon83 said:
I thought bongs and glass pipes were perfectly legal, it's just the stuff you put in them that isn't.

I mean they sell them at all kinds of shops, so why the hell aren't the cops closing down these stores instead of breaking into people's homes?


Because randomly hitting family homes is far more terrifying to people than systematically going to stores.

You should see what they do to stores who sell raw milk... it's literally like a military raid... on hippies... who like drinking milk that's got bacteria in it.

Honestly, though, I think it's something much bigger - the TSA, Homeland Security, drones, NDAA, etc., etc. The USA is becoming a police state... in many ways, it's already there.



SamuelRSmith said:
NightDragon83 said:
I thought bongs and glass pipes were perfectly legal, it's just the stuff you put in them that isn't.

I mean they sell them at all kinds of shops, so why the hell aren't the cops closing down these stores instead of breaking into people's homes?


Because randomly hitting family homes is far more terrifying to people than systematically going to stores.

You should see what they do to stores who sell raw milk... it's literally like a military raid... on hippies... who like drinking milk that's got bacteria in it.

Honestly, though, I think it's something much bigger - the TSA, Homeland Security, drones, NDAA, etc., etc. The USA is becoming a police state... in many ways, it's already there.

The only way it can fully become a "police state" is if they strip everyone of their 2nd amendment rights, so I'm not worried.



On 2/24/13, MB1025 said:
You know I was always wondering why no one ever used the dollar sign for $ony, but then I realized they have no money so it would be pointless.

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I'm never much of a fan of news articles written from such a biased point of view, you can never tell what is actual fact and what is distortion.



NightDragon83 said:
SamuelRSmith said:
NightDragon83 said:
I thought bongs and glass pipes were perfectly legal, it's just the stuff you put in them that isn't.

I mean they sell them at all kinds of shops, so why the hell aren't the cops closing down these stores instead of breaking into people's homes?


Because randomly hitting family homes is far more terrifying to people than systematically going to stores.

You should see what they do to stores who sell raw milk... it's literally like a military raid... on hippies... who like drinking milk that's got bacteria in it.

Honestly, though, I think it's something much bigger - the TSA, Homeland Security, drones, NDAA, etc., etc. The USA is becoming a police state... in many ways, it's already there.

The only way it can fully become a "police state" is if they strip everyone of their 2nd amendment rights, so I'm not worried.

You mean like carry permits? Handgun bans? Waiting lists? Gun owner registers? Or the fact that the Government has proven that it will round up all the guns if "neccessary" (Hurricane Katrina).

Yeah, people can still have guns... but it's not treated like a right, it's very much a case of whether or not you can get the Government's permission. Sure, more places than not, they'll give it to you... but that's only going to get harder as time passes.

I don't know what good a rifle's going to do in most cases, anyway.

Also, read this: http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/02/07/us-usa-fbi-extremists-idUSTRE81600V20120207 notice the language. If you defy Government environmental regulations, you can be regarded as an "extremist" by the FBI.



Rath said:
I'm never much of a fan of news articles written from such a biased point of view, you can never tell what is actual fact and what is distortion.


This.

I hate obviously biased sources, even if they favour my side.



Rath said:
I'm never much of a fan of news articles written from such a biased point of view, you can never tell what is actual fact and what is distortion.


Yeah, the same is true about all things that are written. You still get the overall point, though: several family homes were raided because the homeowners had businesses which sold products that the Government didn't like. The main guy in the story doesn't even sell those products (well, so he claims).



SamuelRSmith said:
Rath said:
I'm never much of a fan of news articles written from such a biased point of view, you can never tell what is actual fact and what is distortion.


Yeah, the same is true about all things that are written. You still get the overall point, though: several family homes were raided because the homeowners had businesses which sold products that the Government didn't like. The main guy in the story doesn't even sell those products (well, so he claims).

True that everything has a bias, but this article hasn't even attempted to minimize bias. I generally get my news from Al Jazeera and the BBC as they are the only two news sources I've found that have minimal bias in their news coverage.

While I agree that if everything went down as stated in that article then it's not a good thing, however I have no idea whether everything went down as stated in the article.