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What are the odds of the 360 beating the PS3 for 2012?

100% 24 17.52%
 
85-99% 11 8.03%
 
70-84% 3 2.19%
 
50-69% 15 10.95%
 
30-49% 8 5.84%
 
15-29% 8 5.84%
 
1-14% 11 8.03%
 
NO Chance at all 53 38.69%
 
Pudding Cakes 4 2.92%
 
Total:137
snowy4manutd on 20 May 2012

I think sony will reveal the real PS3 SLIM at E3 and this will carry them to another winning year.



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yo_john117 on 20 May 2012
krafty89 said:
yo_john117 said:
krafty89 said:
TheKoreanGuy said:
A price cut could really help out PS3 sales. It is currently the most expensive console out of the three.

The PS3 is the most expensive console out of the 3 because it costs the most to produce, i don't see why sony should cut the Price of the PS3 unless the unit cost with the introduction of a new superslim is less than the $200 magical barrier everyone wants. With their current financials they should be happy to sell 12million consoles all at a profit than 14-15million all at a $10-20 loss. Also i doubt a 360 price cut (Unless its the kinect bundle massively discounted) would lead to any meaninfull increase in sales ouside the USA, as despite what some people on here may believe USA doesn't =The world. Also i only think Halo 4 will only sell 8.5million lifetime with it being this late in the cycle and with COD Black ops 2 releasing 3 days later.    

Really? I'd be willing to be that Halo 4 will reach 8.5 million by Jan 1, 2014 (AKA about 1 year, 2 months after release)

I think with the current downtrend in software sales with many games posting really dissapointing sales and the fact Halo 4 comes out only 3 days before BLOPS then some previous halo fans will instead buy BLOPS. Its unlikely that people would buy two heavily multiplayer games only 3 days apart, so i think the bulk of that prediction comes from the lower first week sales.

Why would any Halo fan buy Black Ops 2 over Halo 4 especially given how good Halo 4 looks like. And Battlefield 3 and MW3 proved that you can have two FPS's very near to each other and both still sell more than the previous installment. I'd be extremely surprised if Halo 4 doesn't get to 10 million.



VGKing on 20 May 2012
Jay520 said:
VGKing said:
Wh1pL4shL1ve_007 said:
VGKing said:
I think PS3 can maintain the lead again this year.
-Last year 360 had a Gears 3 bundle, this year it had Kinect Star Wars which didn't really boost it past PS3.
-Last year 360 had a MW3 bundle, this year it has Halo 4 bundle. The HW boost should be very similar.
-Last year the Kinect effect was still pretty strong, this year it's not.
-360 slim momentum was also present last year.

It is 2012 and the 360 has nothing refreshing, it has no momentum going for it like it did in 2011. It would take a price cut for it to have a chance to surpass the PS3 this year. Oh and we also got Wii U coming out. Who knows how that will affect PS360 holiday sales.


It would be a fair comparison of "momentum" if you include what Ps3 had last year and is not present this year as well. Not just the 360s. 

PS3 didn't really have any momentum like the 360 did. We all know how PS Move sold so mentioning that is irrelevant.


PS3 had a price cut last year. And it had a lot of exclusives that sold over 1mill units.


I meant 2011 had no momentum carryied over from 2010.

Anyway none of the PS3 exclusives really moved any hardware. I guess I should've mentioned the price cut but that didn't really have too much of an impact.



VGKing on 20 May 2012
Runa216 said:
smroadkill15 said:
Runa216 said:
wait, people actually think Microsoft is going to be bringing something to the table at E3? the only big announcement they've made for the platform in the last two years was Halo 4....and that'll be big, but it won't be a super mega seller.

I would go out on a limb and say that Battle Royale will push more consoles than Xbox 360...Battle Royale is new to the HD consoles, whereas all halo fans already have 360s.

If Halo 4 isn't a "super mega seller" then what is?  

I mean it's not gonna be pushing consoles.  the game will easily break 10 million sold, but I can't see it having a mega huge impact on console sales, as it's a fair assumption that all halo fans already have a 360 (what with 3, reach, ODST, and Wars)

Highly doubt it.

Halo Reach isn't even at 9m yet. It's highly unlikiely Halo 4 would surpass Halo Reach sales in 2 months.



VGKing on 20 May 2012
Legend11 said:

If the 360 has a price cut I think it will win based on holiday sales.

PS. I'm one of the people that thinks the 360 really won last year as well.  If it ships more this year it will really bring into the question the claim that PS3 won 2011 & 2012 (if the same thing happens at the end of this year that happened at the end of 2011).


360 is already at mass market price($199). A price cut won't really do much. At best it will keep sales from dropping to much from 2011.



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Runa216 on 20 May 2012
VGKing said:

Highly doubt it.

Halo Reach isn't even at 9m yet. It's highly unlikiely Halo 4 would surpass Halo Reach sales in 2 months.

I thought Halo Reach was at 11 million...and 4 would get higher. 



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VGKing on 20 May 2012
y2jarmyofficial said:
now was not the ps3 doing better at the bigining of last year,and was not the 360 the best selling console of last year due to big black friday ,last year gears helped,but halo 4 is bigger then gears 3,if halo 3 can sell near 12million units,then well this year will be a happy year for xbox in the fall and this year,only thing that will affect this is if wiiu launches before halo4


You are on VgChartz, and VgChartz data shows that PS3 was the winner in 2011.

If you don't trust VgChartz data, I suggest you get off this site. There are plenty of other forums out there for you to join.

Here's a direct link to 2011 sales data http://www.vgchartz.com/yearly/2011/Global/

When you see Microsoft or Sony mention sales, they only mention SHIPPED. Since technicall it is a sale to them.
VgChartz doesn't count shipped, they count sales to consumers.



yo_john117 on 20 May 2012
VGKing said:
Jay520 said:
VGKing said:
Wh1pL4shL1ve_007 said:
VGKing said:
I think PS3 can maintain the lead again this year.
-Last year 360 had a Gears 3 bundle, this year it had Kinect Star Wars which didn't really boost it past PS3.
-Last year 360 had a MW3 bundle, this year it has Halo 4 bundle. The HW boost should be very similar.
-Last year the Kinect effect was still pretty strong, this year it's not.
-360 slim momentum was also present last year.

It is 2012 and the 360 has nothing refreshing, it has no momentum going for it like it did in 2011. It would take a price cut for it to have a chance to surpass the PS3 this year. Oh and we also got Wii U coming out. Who knows how that will affect PS360 holiday sales.


It would be a fair comparison of "momentum" if you include what Ps3 had last year and is not present this year as well. Not just the 360s. 

PS3 didn't really have any momentum like the 360 did. We all know how PS Move sold so mentioning that is irrelevant.


PS3 had a price cut last year. And it had a lot of exclusives that sold over 1mill units.


I meant 2011 had no momentum carryied over from 2010.

Anyway none of the PS3 exclusives really moved any hardware. I guess I should've mentioned the price cut but that didn't really have too much of an impact.

I'd say the price cut for the PS3 did have a pretty good impact (obviously not as much as the 2009 price/slim impact). The price cut is what single-handidly made the PS3 beat the 360 last year.



krafty89 on 22 May 2012

If Microsoft and Sony do the same bundling as last year (Forza, halo) (Uncharted, GT5) then i believe the PS3 will win even with a 360 price cut (Which would have no affect in the UK similar to a PS3 price cut, as they are already cheaper than the price cut prices) based on the holiday numbers, and the fact PS3 will keep on getting ahead.



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yo_john117 on 03 June 2012

Updated to include all of May. PS3 gained another 96k in it's favor.

Feel free to predict what the gap will be between the PS3 and 360 for the month of June.