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Despite this year's Black Ops 2 running on the same engine engine as 2005's Modern Warfare, Lamia says extensive improvements made to that 'foundation' have resulted in significant advances without the need for an entirely new engine.

"People always ask me, 'Is this a new engine?' I liken it to people who live in an older house that has been remodeled. Just because you're remodeling the house and it will look new or it will have a new kitchen, you don't tear out the foundation, or break out some of the framing," said Lamia.

"Engines, each time they get touched, they change. The creators alter them; they don't modify what they don't need to, and then they alter what they need to. You can't make a competitive product if you're not upgrading that engine along the way.

"I think what people are asking for is for us to push. They want us to make a better-looking game," he went on.

"We asked ourselves that very same question - we wanted to advance the graphics. I think the questions are valid. The answer may not need to be an entirely new engine, but you might need to do an entire overhaul of your entire lighting system.

"The trick is, we're not willing to do that if we can't keep it running at 60 frames per second - but we did that this time. So this is the Black Ops II engine," said Lamia.

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Modern Warfare came out in 2007, not 2005.

I still feel as if I am killing the same guys from modern warfare 1 in black ops.



 

 

it does'nt matter,as long as people keep buying.



oldschoolfool said:
it does'nt matter,as long as people keep buying.

Yup, why waste money on stuff that won't get you more sales?

I still think that CoD looks might impressive given its 60FPS, and at this stage in the generation, I would wait for next gen before a new engine, it just isn't worth it for yearly games



No need for a new engine unless its for next generation , why bother with a new engine upon the end of a generation especially when the sales are good?



    

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Exactly as the others have pointed out, people are too obsessed with game engines and numbers that they can attach on to a game. But as long as the game itself feels good and is FUN, its just fine.

What COD needs now is innovation, not necessarily a new game engine. I'm sure a new engine will come with a new console but I do believe that BO2 is bringing a lot of new things to the plate in terms COD gameplay goes.



 

Munkeh111 said:
oldschoolfool said:
it does'nt matter,as long as people keep buying.

Yup, why waste money on stuff that won't get you more sales?

I still think that CoD looks might impressive given its 60FPS, and at this stage in the generation, I would wait for next gen before a new engine, it just isn't worth it for yearly games


I completely agree that they should wait for the next generation at this point, but I disagree with your other points. The Black Ops II reveal trailer left a lot to be desired for me. When you have games like Battlefield 3 and MoH Warfighter pushing fantastic new technology, BO2 just looks bland and old.

It doesn't matter financially though. BO2 will sell more than BF3 and MoH:W combined, and Activision will save themselves from truly growing stale by developing a new engine for next gen.



im_sneaky said:
Modern Warfare came out in 2007, not 2005.

I still feel as if I am killing the same guys from modern warfare 1 in black ops.

Infinity Ward's implementation of the Quake III engine started with their 2005 release, Call of Duty 2.  We normally say "same engine since MW1" because IW restructured many assets compared to CoD2.



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wfz said:
Munkeh111 said:
oldschoolfool said:
it does'nt matter,as long as people keep buying.

Yup, why waste money on stuff that won't get you more sales?

I still think that CoD looks mighty impressive given its 60FPS, and at this stage in the generation, I would wait for next gen before a new engine, it just isn't worth it for yearly games


I completely agree that they should wait for the next generation at this point, but I disagree with your other points. The Black Ops II reveal trailer left a lot to be desired for me. When you have games like Battlefield 3 and MoH Warfighter pushing fantastic new technology, BO2 just looks bland and old.

It doesn't matter financially though. BO2 will sell more than BF3 and MoH:W combined, and Activision will save themselves from truly growing stale by developing a new engine for next gen.

But it runs at 60FPS on consoles! On PC it is miles behind the curve, but on consoles not so much. Yes, it doesn't look so good, but I am more interested in things like 4 player splitscreen than just out and out graphics.

Also, i tend to not really judge graphics until the game is running on my console, I can never really tell until I am actually playing it



Exactly. Why should they bother making a new engine when we know and they know the same sheep will keep buying it. Every time a cod is released its the usual "lol its the same game I've already played" or "lol another 60 dollar expansion pack", but it keeps breaking the sales records... This time around will be no different. Quite sad really.