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It's amazing United ran City so close for the title when probably only 2 or 3 united players would get in the city 11.

On a side note......

http://www.talksport.co.uk/magazine/big-picture/2011-10-13/worlds-most-popular-football-club-revealed-man-united-liverpool-arsenal-barca-real-or-chelsea

 



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Soleron said:
kowenicki said:

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do you support a football team?  if so.. which?

No, I have had incandescent arguments with my dad over this forever. He supports Villa and wants me to.

Here is what I support:

http://pic5.duowan.com/sc2/1106/172836268615/172836281181.jpg

Because this guy went from nothing to the best on the planet at his discipline, and I've supported him from the start in doing so. And the money put into the sport isn't so high as to corrupt anyone.

My dad is also a pushy Villa fan.

I support Villa, but he wants me to go one further and ferociously hate Birmingham City FC. I just can't bring myself to do that, I'm indifferent to them. If they're successful, then I wont be angry at their victory; I would be happy for them if anything.

Besides, the window of my office faces their ground, St Andrews, and I have to look at that ugly mess all day. Perhaps if they're successful they can afford to tear it down and build a nice stadium in its place.



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Just saying that United are going strong due to their history, fan base and healthy revenues, as evidenced from this survey. 

http://www.talksport.co.uk/magazine/big-picture/2011-10-13/worlds-most-popular-football-club-revealed-man-united-liverpool-arsenal-barca-real-or-chelsea?p=2



Saw the last 20 minutes of the match. Very exciting in the end but overall another loss for football after Inter's triple in 2010.



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kowenicki said:
pezus said:
kowenicki said:
ManUtdFan said:

It's amazing United ran City so close for the title when probably only 2 or 3 united players would get in the city 11.

On a side note......

http://www.talksport.co.uk/magazine/big-picture/2011-10-13/worlds-most-popular-football-club-revealed-man-united-liverpool-arsenal-barca-real-or-chelsea

 


imagine when fregie retires (soon) and it all falls to rat shit.

So the are different from City after all. Their success is based on good management, not purely pockets full of money

its based on both as is City's as is real madrids as is barcelonas.  they ALL have shit loads of money and have spent shit loads of money over the years.  I dont diferentiate between them... you do.


like i said some posts before, if you spend a part of your revenue you make with tv-money, merchandise, champions leaguie prize money everything would be ok, that's as example how bayern munich is doing it (as much as i hate them but i love how they work with their money). but not if sheik abdullah comes and says: "the whole revenue of the club is 200 million? i put 200 million in the club only for new players every year!



Congrats Man City. Clubs will always buy their title. 300 millions or 3 millions, buying is buying....



ManUtdFan said:

Just saying that United are going strong due to their history, fan base and healthy revenues, as evidenced from this survey. 

http://www.talksport.co.uk/magazine/big-picture/2011-10-13/worlds-most-popular-football-club-revealed-man-united-liverpool-arsenal-barca-real-or-chelsea?p=2


This is slightly unrelated, but a point I think worth making. I would like to see a graph that charts the amount of fans each club has season-by-season, I would bet that it correlates closely with success. But I'm afraid I can't find anything like that.

All I have is anecdotal evidence. Five years ago I didn't know one Man City fan, suddenly I probably know over a dozen. Ten years ago I didn't know a single Chelsea fan, now I know dozens.

Another example is Wigan. I doubt they are supported only by the handful of fans they had fifteen years ago when they were playing in division 3 and had an average attendance of ~3000. They now draw crowds of ~25,000 as a result of their premier league status.



kowenicki said:
Lafiel said:
all your football is all belong to oil


for god sake...

whats your point?

are you saying that this means it cant be entertaining or exciting?

that was the most thrilling end to a football season there has ever been. anywhere... ever...

lol no.

Bundesliga season 00/01 was better.

EDIT: Didn't see that Rol already posted the same story.



highwaystar101 said:
kowenicki said:
pezus said:
So very disappointing and I'd like to echo Rol's words:
"Celebrating a team like Manchester City is just wrong."


this is just so so so weak.

Man U paid 60m for two players years ago (ferdinand and Rooney)... probably about 80m in todays money.  Utd bought the title many times spent big money on many players, as did Chelsea, as did Blackburn, as did many other teams.

My take on the whole "big-money" debate is this...

David Beckham, Paul Scholes, Ryan Giggs, Gary Neville, Phil Neville, Nicky Butt... These players cemented Manchester United's dominance of the Premier League in the 90s. They were not the product of money, they were the product of good management and one of the most nurturing youth systems ever. Sure they've spent big in recent years, but that is only possible due to their earlier, self-made success.

Manchester city are missing that. Outside of Joe Hart, I can't think of one player still at Man City who has risen through the ranks.'They even gave away their home-grown star Stephen Ireland, once voted 'player of the year', just so they could spend £24m on another player. I think something valuable has been lost from the club when that happens.

Chelsea did exactly the same thing. The only remaining product of the pre-Abramovich era are John Terry and Frank Lampard. Surely the real feeling of victory is  missing from a club like that. It's like cheating in a video game; you'll win, but it wont feel the same.


Well even young talents are bought and not just "raised".

Barcelona bought Messi at the age of what? 10? It's still buying imo.