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MS, fire Don Mattrick please and invite Peter Moore back with the highest salary!!!!!!!!! And then take your luggage with full of money to Japan to buy exclusive games.



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richardhutnik said:

Dashboard?  So Microsoft is now going to count revamping the dashboard as releasing a new console?

Well they counted an Eye Toy as a new console...

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Sal.Paradise said:
richardhutnik said:

Dashboard?  So Microsoft is now going to count revamping the dashboard as releasing a new console?

Well they counted an Eye Toy as a new console...

well its selling better than 360 did at first years.

Probably >25m shipments this year, very likely.

i dont have Kinect and i dont want Kinect but im happy at least i´ll be able to play Bioshock Infinite, Halo 4, Forza Horizon and probably Ryse this holiday... Also Resident Evil 6 please...



First of all, people always question Pachter's credibility and statement accuracy but now everyone's accepting this as fact? Not saying it's not going to happen, because it most certainly could, but I'm going to reserve final judgment for E3.

And when it comes to exclusives, Microsoft seems to do what works for them. They release a small number of high profile exclusives each year that are guaranteed to make a ton of money. Maybe the uncertain outcome of making a fresh IP (ahem, Alan Wake) is too risky a prospect, unfortunately.



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RSEagle said:
First of all, people always question Pachter's credibility and statement accuracy but now everyone's accepting this as fact? Not saying it's not going to happen, because it most certainly could, but I'm going to reserve final judgment for E3. 

The topic is wrong as well. Pachter didn't say MS told him their E3 was going to be more multimedia focused instead of games, he said the things he was being taken to Microsoft to show under NDA was more multimedia then games.

As it stands, Microsoft has the largest number of retail exclusives due in 2012 and the same for digital.

 Retail

1.       Country Dance All Stars

2.       Deepak Chopra's Leela

3.       DragonBall Z Kinect

4.       Halo 4

5.       Kinect Disneyland Adventures

6.       Kinect Rush: A Disney Pixar Adventure

7.       Fable: The Journey

8.       Forza – Horizon

9.       Kinect Star Wars

10.   Kinectalloons

11.   Kung-Fu High Impact

12.   National Geographic: Expedition Wild  

13.   NBA Baller Beats

14.   Sesame Street TV

15.   Steel Batallion: Heavy Armour

16.   Top Angler: Real Bass Fishing

17.   Victorious: Time to Shine

18.   Your Shape 3

19.   Zumba Fitness Rush

XBLA

Xbla

  1. Alan Wake’s American Nightmare
  2. Avatar Motocross Madness
  3. Battleblock Theatre
  4. Bloodforge
  5. Charlie Murder
  6. Class 3
  7. Crimson Dragon
  8. Deadlight
  9. Diabolical Pitch
  10. Doodlejump
  11. Dust : Elysian Tale
  12. Fable Heroes
  13. FEZ
  14. Happy Action Theater
  15. Happy Wars
  16. Haunt
  17. Hybrid
  18. Joe Danger The Movie
  19. Joyride Boost
  20. Kung Fu Strike: The Warriors Rise
  21. Mark of the Ninja           
  22. Sinemora
  23. South Park: Scott Tenermans Revenge
  24. Spelunky
  25. SUPER TIME FORCE
  26. Trials Evolution
  27. The Splatters
  28. Wreckateer


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My expectation is that Microsoft's E3 will be on par with the previous two years. Nothing over-the-top amazing, but nothing necessarily disappointing.

The past two years have offered a three part focus on Kinect, Entertainment apps, and Games. It seems to have worked well for them.



I guess this really shouldn't be a surprise of anyone at this point. Like I said in another thread, as long as they show a bunch of Halo 4 I'll be perfectly happy.

I hope one of the things they show/announce for entertainment at E3 will be XBL Gold plus. The dream would be that the service cost around $15 a month (or $100 for a year) and include their Zune pass service, 2 free movie rentals a month, 1 free XBLA game a month (that you can keep as long as you have Gold like PSN Plus) and one rental of a game from their GoD service. Also I would like if they let you add a TV service like HBO or Xfinnity without having to have any prior subscriptions for another $10-15 (that won't happen though unfortunately)



radishhead said:
Microsoft to have weakest E3 2012 confirmed?


Can they really do worse than last year?



so in other words an hour and a half divoted to pointless shit? Thanks ill be sure not to watch




 

 

                     

Panama said:
The problem is that the consumer gives them no reason to release retail exclusives. The 360 usually dominates sales charts in the USA with what tends to be a purely third party retail lineup for the last 4 years. It's the consumer's fault for having such low standards if anything, not Microsoft's.

It's actually very much sony's fault. With all things equal, the 360 is the console to get simply because it's the more popular console, and so getting means you have more friends to lend you games and to play online with. Sony came to the race very late, and tried to pass the leader by copying its every move. The wii was able to easily pass it by coming up with a different game plan.

I am talking strictly USA in the following paragraph.

Sony hasn't been able to differentiate themselves from xbox, and hence they have struggled against them. Other than Uncharted and God of War, the US fanbase has shown no interest in any recent exclusives and that goes for even ps3 owners. They are just buying CoD, Madden, NBA, and Assassins Creed, with a little skyrim and battlefield 3 to spruce things up last year. Basically the exact same games 360 owners buy, except replace Uncharted and God of War with the much more popular Gears of War and Halo(again strictl yUSA). So tell me again why people should be flocking over to the PS3? The only reasonable arguement is because online gaming is free, and I think its a very big one, sony just screwed themselves because the people who care about online gaming want to play with their friends who happen to most likely have 360s.

The 360 is approaching market saturation in America. Sony just needs to make more imaginative games to convince 360 owners to suppliment their console with a ps3. Killzone, resistance, and infamous sequels won't help. Sony needs big  immaginative games that won't compete with a multiplatform behemoth. LittleBigPlanet, Metal Gear Solid 5, and Gran Turismo 5 are good examples of games in genres with little competition that a sony exclusive was able to dominate. They do not need some shooter or sandbox game that has no chance to compete with CoD and GTA. Microsoft is very lucky that Gears of War and Halo got big before Call of Duty got big and so those two games can still sell well. Sony is sheer out of luck in that respect. It would take far too much effort and advertisement to make a very successful shooter nowadays, unless it has some way of differentiating itself. (Platforming in Uncharted, rpg elements in borderlands, zombie horde Surivival in Left 4 Dead)

 

As for the E3 news, this thread is about, its really dissappointing that the xbox's main focus no longer seems to be games. I really want to buy one for halo 4 and witcher 2 since my pc can't handle that game well, but if they decide to force extra services into xbox live gold along with another live price increase, I may have to reconsider.