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Kasz216 on 06 May 2012
Scoobes said:
Kasz216 said:
TadpoleJackson said:
I don't follow French politics, at all. Why don't people like Sarkozy? I'd assume any French leader who doesn't get invaded a successful one


Honestly, it all started bad with the day he was elected.  Rather then meet with the people immediatly as was traditional he instead went to a party held by wealth supporters.  People saw it as him being in the hands of the wealthy.

Weeks later it was found out the reason he had done this was that he and his wife were getting a divorce, but she had agreed to stick with him for a month or two after the election

His wife couldn't be found and he didn't want the embarresment of showing up without his wife.  It was however too late after that and the table was set... a collection of blunders later, and France elected someone largely because he wasn't sarkozy. (Seriously, that's what the polls showed for the first election... most hollande votes were because he wasn't Sarkozy.)

To be honest, I'm surprised Sarkozy wasn't beaten by a larger margin. Before the election Hollande seemed to have unified the support from the left whilst Sarkozy struggled to get the extreme right on board.


Me too.  I mean Le Penn refused to endorse him, which i'm not sure was hilarious or funny.

It makes me wonder... does france not have a primary system?  Why didn't someone within the party look at the sitatuion and say "Hey, policy wise people still mostly agree with us, they just hate Sarkozy, lets replace him."

Should be interesting to see what Hollande does.  He'd already made assurances with Merkel before elected that makes it sound like he's not going to go all the way through with his campagin promises.  So it seems like he's leaning towards a sprint towards the middle to hold power, rather then try and accomplish his view in one term and hope it sticks.



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mrstickball on 06 May 2012
TadpoleJackson said:
I don't follow French politics, at all. Why don't people like Sarkozy? I'd assume any French leader who doesn't get invaded a successful one


George Bush Mk. 2 from everything I've seen. It seems like France may be the only place that has worse politicians than the US.

I'd find it funny if Hollande was eventually defeated by Le Pen in a few years.

 

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In other news, I think this is pretty much the end of the European Union project. Within 10 years, I expect it to utterly collapse. God only knows what will rise out of the ashes. I hope that everyone survives for what is likely to be a bumpy ride.



Back from the dead, I'm afraid.

Blacksaber on 06 May 2012
mrstickball said:
TadpoleJackson said:
I don't follow French politics, at all. Why don't people like Sarkozy? I'd assume any French leader who doesn't get invaded a successful one


George Bush Mk. 2 from everything I've seen. It seems like France may be the only place that has worse politicians than the US.

I'd find it funny if Hollande was eventually defeated by Le Pen in a few years..

But that's what we pride ourselves in, we can't let another country take that from us! 



Former something....

Alby_da_Wolf on 07 May 2012
TadpoleJackson said:
I don't follow French politics, at all. Why don't people like Sarkozy? I'd assume any French leader who doesn't get invaded a successful one


ROTFL!   



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ImJustBayuum on 07 May 2012

Poor Germany..Worst case scenario for the EU Zone and Germany in particular



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Alby_da_Wolf on 07 May 2012
kowenicki said:
Mr Khan said:
kowenicki said:
Nice to see the back of the arrogant little creep Sarkozy, but.... it could be a bad day for Europe and the global economies.

I was thinking about you, actually, remembering your outspoken comments against Sarkozy (the time he spent in your sig, for instance) and thought, "well, be careful what you wish for..."

Although one can't take Hollande entirely at his rhetorical word. Let's just see how campaign promises translate into policy in this case...


Well, exactly... you can bet he will mellow as soon as he gets to the reality of the situation and Merkel et al get a grip of him.

But I am so pleased the arrogant fool Sarkozy is gone, he represented everything that has ever been bad about french leaders... unbelievably arrogant and pompous.  The epitome of small man syndrome.  I wouldnt be surprised if a future scandal unfolds involving him and self interests.

And with no reason to be so satisfied of himself, as in the last times he became the lackey of the unscrewable fat-ass.



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Kasz216 on 07 May 2012

It's funny though... One of the main reasons the socialist got elected was because Sarkozy didn't cut the size of French government.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702304363104577388080240429536.html?mod=googlenews_wsj



Lostplanet22 on 07 May 2012

Surprised that the market in the end saw it as positive news. 1.6% up for Paris CAC.



 

SamuelRSmith on 07 May 2012
kowenicki said:
Kasz216 said:
It's funny though... One of the main reasons the socialist got elected was because Sarkozy didn't cut the size of French government.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702304363104577388080240429536.html?mod=googlenews_wsj


I dont know how it is in France... but in the UK a large portion of people that vote for the Labour party are very confused...  A hell of a lot of working class people want to limit immigration, dont like Europe, hate big government, are opposed to gay rights etc etc... and yet they always have and always will vote Labour.  They vote left, when they should vote right.

its odd.

and its why its a pity we cant have some kind of test prior to a vote counting.  It helps if someone knows for what they are voting.  I know, I know, thats not democratic... but it is infuriating sometimes how totally unaware whole swaithes of the population are.

Democracy is overrated, it's what leads us into the shit we're in today.

The Conservatives don't really stand for any of that stuff either, though. It's all rhetoric, at the end of the day, they're still increasing the size and power of the Government, and letting Eurocrats decide every little thing for us.



RedInker on 07 May 2012

Just saw on TV that the reek Conservative leader Antonis Samaras has said he is unable to form a coalition government only hours after being given the mandate to do so.