Omega_Phazon_Pirate. said:
I agree that Christian extermists are equally as damaging to this world as Muslim ones are, as I think any extremists are (Atheism included). |
Who are atheist extremists?
Omega_Phazon_Pirate. said:
I agree that Christian extermists are equally as damaging to this world as Muslim ones are, as I think any extremists are (Atheism included). |
Who are atheist extremists?
If the reality of God gets reduced to answer of whether or not God exists, and the belief in God is that God exists, then it makes fully perfect and complete sense someone wouldn't want to have anything to do with the area, and their lives go on just fine. Think for a moment about yourself. If people were all hung up, and society, on debating whether you exist, why would you ever bother showing up? Would it be so it is like, "Wow, thank you God. We know you exist. Now excuse me, while I now believe you are real, I have a ballgame to watch. Maybe we can go out for a coffee sometime. I am sure you can tell a story to me about all these acts people say you did that are pretty bad, so I can make sense out of things."
And now it gets reduced to "faith". How boring is that? It is like faith itself gets worshiped? Faith as an idol. Just believe something, anything. It is magical.
Andrespetmonkey said:
Who are atheist extremists? |
Militant Atheistic Marxists who get ahold of states, and end up persecuting people for believing in God. Lening and Stalin did that. Other forms of extremism are the Dawkins and Hitchens of the world, who decide to write books being atheistic evangelicals. Anyone can be extremist about everything if they even turn a lack of belief into something they center their lives around.
Good article. Points to many issues in many religions today.
As a Muslim, I still believe in a God that is the creation i.e. the universe itself. No form no sex no needs. But It still exists.
I am God, you are God, this computer is God, the web, the earth, the sun, the dark matter, the everything is God.
But in the end... you really only need to be a good person and treat others as you'd want to be treated. Respect difference and try your best to leave the world in a better state than when you entered it.
Athiest or not... there's no way a all good God will punish anyone simply because they didn't think God existed or called God one of the millions of different names there are. That's just illogical and doesn't make any sense. Furthermore I'm positive that part is made up by men wanting power and not by God wanting good.
superchunk said: Good article. Points to many issues in many religions today. As a Muslim, I still believe in a God that is the creation i.e. the universe itself. No form no sex no needs. But It still exists. I am God, you are God, this computer is God, the web, the earth, the sun, the dark matter, the everything is God. But in the end... you really only need to be a good person and treat others as you'd want to be treated. Respect difference and try your best to leave the world in a better state than when you entered it. Athiest or not... there's no way a all good God will punish anyone simply because they didn't think God existed or called God one of the millions of different names there are. That's just illogical and doesn't make any sense. Furthermore I'm positive that part is made up by men wanting power and not by God wanting good. |
The bolded has always made me wonder though. Why would it be necessary to believe in God if it's not a requirement if you want to enter Heaven after you die? If being good to other people is the only requirement then there's no point in having a Bible at all.
IIIIITHE1IIIII said:
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Because most people are weak and need that stick to go along with the carrot.
superchunk said:
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So, the weak people need to believe in a God while the strong don't need that kind of help?
IIIIITHE1IIIII said:
And if your answer that he ends up in Heaven is wrong, then he was born to end up wherever he did. Luck brought him to his final destination. |
I dont have a specific religion so i just call myself a theist...
Anyways, Id say that they wouldn't go to heaven but they also wouldnt go to hell...because there is no hell. Hell is just a consequence constructed out of symbolism to scare people into believing when the church realized how hard it is to keep power. "Heaven" (im not sure what heaven is but i hope i will find out someday) is a gift to people who lived their lives in the way a person should. Belief is not a requirement imo. I find it highly illogical to say "you have to believe in the right thing to go to heaven" when theres millions of people in different religions living their lives better than any christian i know
Seeing as he's a major religion spammer (on this forum at least) and enjoys writing walls of text, someone needs to get Oosnap to read this, just to get a response out of him if anything.
IIIIITHE1IIIII said:
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Weak need the heaven hell and whole bit, where as strong willed who do good regardless just because its the right thing to do could believe in whatever they want and still do the same.
Some people need constant reminder of why they need to choose the moral high ground or they just need the comfort of their view of God. Others are content at just doing good and may even live in regions where there is no God taught to them.
To me that is all fluff and doesn't matter. Just do the right thing.