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Retail games

It was about time!
Bound to ONE console!??? Come on! :(
I buy all my stuff retail, so who cares
What about buying games 2nd hand!?
Make the digital games cheaper is all I care.
JEMC said:
VicViper said:
This is the best thing ever for under-privileged countries, you have no idea!

It's like, a revolution - but only if we have access to the American/European store. XBOX Marketplace here is ok, but has so few games, for example. Make it like steam, Nintendo... one world, one store.

You know that Steam can, for example, have a game in offer in the USA while in Europe the same game is still full price, do you. Or that you may not be able to play a game because, while it's in Steam and is has been released in some countries, it hasn't been launched in your country? 1 Store yes, but 1 world not so much.

OT: My biggest worry with this is storage. It's ok to use SD cards for the 3DS games, but WiiU will use custom discs with 25GB of capacity. Where a we going to download them?

to an external HD maybe?...

 OT:  In my case I will still buy hard copies of my games, at least for all nintendo games, digital is fine though, and if the price is right I'll buy most 3rd party games thru the eshop.



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JEMC said:

OT: My biggest worry with this is storage. It's ok to use SD cards for the 3DS games, but WiiU will use custom discs with 25GB of capacity. Where a we going to download them?

It's been confirmed that the system can use USB HDDs as well as SD cards.



Come on Nintendo, make me want to buy your consoles.

No HDD and games tied to a single piece of hardware is NOT the way to do it.



noname2200 said:

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So what do you think of Nintendo's strategy? Supposedly the games will cost the same at retail and as download. Looks like Nintendo doesn't want to piss off retailers which is a smart strategy.



Legend11 correctly predicted that GTA IV (360+PS3) would outsell SSBB. I was wrong.

Biased reviews are a pleasure to read. Just my opinion, of course.

RolStoppable said:
noname2200 said:

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So what do you think of Nintendo's strategy? Supposedly the games will cost the same at retail and as download. Looks like Nintendo doesn't want to piss off retailers which is a smart strategy.

From a business perspective, it makes sense. For all the clamoring some folks like to do re: digital distribution, it's clearly still a minority of the console market. I remember the guys who made Shadow Complex complaining that for all the marketing it got, its sales were still too small to pull in more than just a modest profit. But this still lets smaller games games get published, while giving them some (probably very limited) exposure at retail. And there's always the off chance that the console market will follow the PC market in a decade or two; lord knows consoles now seem to be more and more like neutered PCs.

From a personal perspective, I'm mostly into it. I already use the USB Loader for my Wii, and while I have to hang onto all the discs in case something goes wrong I certainly can't argue with the convenience. Plus the niche games are more likely to still release this way. On the flipside, there are probably going to be more games which will never get a physical release. As someone who prefers the boxed copy, that's unfortunate. I'm already wondering what's going to happen to all my WiiWare games once the service dies down, although with luck that won't be until at least another generation.



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RolStoppable said:
noname2200 said:

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So what do you think of Nintendo's strategy? Supposedly the games will cost the same at retail and as download. Looks like Nintendo doesn't want to piss off retailers which is a smart strategy.


I'm too lazy to find the quote now, but I believe Iwata said something about online games not costing the same as retail versions. One of the 9124 quotes from the investor's meeting



Khan, that's what I was banking on when I first read about the Nintendo Network. But when I read it in the investors' briefing, like Rainbird I thought it'll be bond to the console, not the account. It's a horrible way to deal with the merchandising, and I'll definitely be buying the games retail if it's like that.

It's already tough enough buying the same games many times on the virtual console and Wiiware, but luckily the pain is reduced since it's the eighth of the price. But here I'll probably never download games as it is. They'll probably address that mid-gen, but if they don't people will have to pressure them about it, it's ridiculous.

That's not the way a market leader should operate, they need to listen to their customers more...

@theRepublic. As far as I can tell, Starcraft II can be played on any machine, as long as you're logged into battle.net and have the game installed. It's the right way to do it imho, we are sick of giving our money away repeatedly and need more ownership of our purchases.



VicViper said:
RolStoppable said:

So what do you think of Nintendo's strategy? Supposedly the games will cost the same at retail and as download. Looks like Nintendo doesn't want to piss off retailers which is a smart strategy.


I'm too lazy to find the quote now, but I believe Iwata said something about online games not costing the same as retail versions. One of the 9124 quotes from the investor's meeting

Iwata noted that downloaded software will not be able to be shared between systems. Nintendo plans on keeping its suggested pricing of physical and digital software the same, but retailers will be able to set the prices of the software they sell as usual, including digital content.

http://ds.ign.com/articles/122/1223880p1.html



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happydolphin said:

@theRepublic. As far as I can tell, Starcraft II can be played on any machine, as long as you're logged into battle.net and have the game installed. It's the right way to do it imho, we are sick of giving our money away repeatedly and need more ownership of our purchases.

If you can't connect to the internet, or the servers are down you are probably screwed though.  And what happens when the game is no longer supported?  That is not something that you really need to worry about with Starcraft, but for smaller digital services it is going to be a problem at some point.

As far as I can tell, the agreements for digital games make it so you are basically renting the game.  Physical copies will be better unless something drastic changes.  I don't expect that to happen.  It gives the company more control and removes it from the customer.  Companies will not give up that power unless some law changes that, most likely.



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theRepublic said:

As far as I can tell, the agreements for digital games make it so you are basically renting the game. 

The lawyers are certainly hellbent on making that the case, yes.