You're right, because Saddam Hussein attacked New York and Washington on 9/11/01. His secular regime was in total alignment with the fundamentalist goals of al-qaida, that's why Saddam Hussein and Osama bin Laden have always been great buddies. Also, they're both Arabs, so they must be in alignment. That's also why al-qaida in iraq existed before 2003. Also, we have discovered WMDs in Iraq, freed the Iraqi people of tyranny and now it is a democracy thanks to us. Mission accomplished!

Those are just a few of the things people will believe if they watch too much fox news.

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i wasn't really putting much effort into that last post i did so sorry if i offended you..

But the main thing i'm saying is that the laws we've been working for for the last few decades will be overturned. Even if he appoints a non-radical conservative judge, the laws will be in favor of the conservatives.

To me, this means a society of more intolerance. for example, No gay rights.

and a society of less innovation. for example, No stem cell research.

and then theres abortion. Like it or not, abortion pushed the crime levels down in the 1990's, because two decades before the 1990's was Roe VS Wade. The children who would've been born, weren't. The majority of women who seek abortion aren't rich. They are mainly of the lower class, and face it, people in this country weren't born equal. If you were born into the lower class, you're public schools around you aren't as good, you probably don't have health care, etc.

the crime level didn't go down because of the fact that there were more policemen. The crime rate was already dropping when a lot more policemen began to be hired.

The booming economy wasn't why crime decreased either. The 60's were a time of economic strength, comparable to the 90's, but the crime rate was horrible back then.

banning abortion would be horrible for the future of this country IMHO.

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You are right about everything, also I love your avatar! Pandas!

 Not many, it took 10 years for an attack to land on US soil, and we could have stopped it had we been a little more vigilant, there is no need to worry about running out and trying to safeguard the world, we are causing them to gain more support by doing so, just focus on ourselve and reamin vigilant in case something pops up.

And then they fritter it away, before 9/11 they were a dying force, and then after 9/11 came our heavy handed response which gave them a fresh infusion of support, the moderate arab don't like them let them deal with the terrorists which will happen when the terrorists start hurting civilians in their own countries.  You are just trumpeting the drums of fear when you think that they will suddenly grow so powerful if we leave, quite the contrary they will be sealing their own defeat

No there is a difference between Isolationism and minding ourselves, most nations don't try to be the world's police, but they remain commited to things like globalization, our actions in the 1920's and 1930's was to cut off globalization and stop trading, this helped set up the economic ills that made a breeding ground for guys like Hitler, we need to remain commited to globalization, and let the world change on its own

 Yup there were iraqis in those planes...nope wait there were pakistanis and Saudis on the 9/11 planes, aren't they our allies who we give tons of money too, and don't the pakistanis have nukes...hmmmm

You see this war is total BS 

I'd guess someones read freakanomics.  Great book. 

 For abortion it depends on your religion mostly i'd say.  Well and your stance on existance.  I'll assume you're christian but if you are of another religion feel free to correct me.

I once thought that everyone would rather exist then not.  I found out that i was actually quite in the minority, and that when given the choice between something like a non-ending hell and nonexistance most chose non-existance.  To many people, being "punished" before being born seems preferable than being born in a poor hell and given up to the broken adoption and foster system we currently have.  A majority of people i'd say based on what i've seen. 

Before any changed on the abortion law can be made at first i'd say the foster and adoption system needs to be fixed.  Although abortion is an imperfect solution for an imperfect problem anyway, as most abortions could be prevented through people just not being stupid, and even just using birth control.

After that it depends on your choice of when life starts and what happens however.  If you believe aborted babies have souls... what happen to those souls when they die.  As a christian they can't except christ, theoreitcally anyway, but god would really let those who were not even born go to hell through no choice of their own?  If so, does this mean retarded people, stillborns, miscarriges and the like are also fated to hell because of these random circumstances?

If not and they do go to heaven, is it not better this way, in which they have a 100% chance of going to heaven instead of having an amazingly high chance of becoming a criminal and likely one of the damned?

 That's weird.  I haven't seen that in the bible anywhere.  I think that's your interpretation of it.  Just like your interpretation when life starts.  I've heard others that have said those that don't choose christ go to hell no mater what.

The Catholics for a long time suggested they went to purgatory.

Truth is, you don't know anything about it, you don't know what god does outside of what you assume he does.  You don't know when life starts, and your argueing from nothing but hopes and guesses.

 Wrong, that is the wrong thinking, the Brits eneded intact because they knew when to leave, when to give up, they didn't try and hold on when things went bad they said time to cut out losses and go home.

We aren't different, but we can't go telling other countries what to do, they won't do it, and we can't be every where, no see we are merely making the stain worse, by staying there we make the terrorists look better, once we leave their reason for existing is gone, and they lose all support.