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I wish he would write more articles these days..  my favourite is the blue ocean nintendo one.  Good writer, but terribly Nintendo biased I think.

 

I don't know if Microsoft will leave, but it makes me think that so much of the 'negativity' towards the PS3 on the net is Microsoft Viral... infact i'm almost certain! 



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The problem with Sega wasn't that they weren't making any money... it's that they ran out of money to spend. They were in over their heads competing with much bigger companies.



johnlucas said:
fooflexible said:
To be fair to Sony you really have to give them credit, not only did they push for Cd-rom based games, but they created a much friendlier environment for third parties, and their biggest acheivment is creating a market for mature games. Right now that's what Nintendo is doing expanding the market, but Sony was the first one to do it. Alot of older guys who considered gaming for kids started picking up playstations to play sports games then slowly shifted to other titles. Plus anyone who loves Nintendo now also has to thank Sony if it wasn't for them serving humble pie to Nintendo the last decade god only knows what crazy Nintendo cart based contraption we'd be playing right now.

Yes Sony DID do good in this regard. They allowed gaming to become more global than before. Sony took it a little further than a family-friendly or kids device and brought more adults back into the scene. I'm not so happy about them bringing in this classification thing that's strangling the gaming community about "mature" & "kiddie" but their receptiveness to 3rd party allowed 3rd party to have a headline showcase that built Sony to the top.

John Lucas


Nintendo is the company that gave Nintendo the kiddie image, not Sony.  Nintendo edited third party games.  They told Midway to put sweat in MK2 instead of blood.  Why take that cheap shot as if it's Sony's fault that Nintendo forced third parties to alter their games while they charged a premium per cartridge just to put the games on their systems?  Nintendo should accept more adult gamers.  They have enough "kiddie" content with their first party.  They make fantastic games.  Allowing Manhunt 2 and RE games is not enough, they need to not force people to censor their online experience.  Nintendo is to blame for their image, not Sony.  

Maybe you're just not happy that Nintendo gets insulted for this, but I just want to make it clear that it's Nintendo's fault.  I agree with your other points about Sony's receptiveness to 3rd parties. 



I really don't think Sony would leave the console race.. that's retarded.

If anything, Sony and MS will learn there lessons... Don't Sell $400/$600 gaming consoles!!!

It's a freaking toy! keep it under $300.

 

 



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gebx said:

I really don't think Sony would leave the console race.. that's retarded.

If anything, Sony and MS will learn there lessons... Don't Sell $400/$600 gaming consoles!!!

It's a freaking toy! keep it under $300.

 


 I disagree with the PS3 being a toy. I have linux on my PS3. I know about 70 other people just on the PS3 Forums that have linux installed and more planning on in the future. The 360 and PS3 are media hubs so they arent just typical game consoles. 



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Kwaad said:
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I think that VGChartz.com really should fix the firefox issue with the quote boxes.


Holy smokes dude. Could you put more anti sony, and more pro nintendo in something like that without trying to sound like an absolute fanboy?


He is only repaying you the favor of being about the most biased, prejudiced, misinformed and overall anti-Nintendo/pro-Sony-delusional person on this, or any other forum.

And if we are going to start criticizing fanboyism, I would keep my mouth sewed together with surgical nylon if I were you. Of all the people calling the kettle black...

You know, people that live in glass houses should not throw stones.



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VGChartz is anti-Firefox and is a pro-Internet Explorer fanboy

 


I disagree with the PS3 being a toy. I have linux on my PS3. I know about 70 other people just on the PS3 Forums that have linux installed and more planning on in the future. The 360 and PS3 are media hubs so they arent just typical game consoles.

Having Linux installed on your device does not mean it is or isn't a toy. You can install Linux on pretty much anything that has circuits and transistors on it. NDS can run Linux, and if that isn't a toy, well...

My electric toothbrush runs Linux and I'm planning to install Linux on my Tamagotchi...



Meh... talking about Toys is stupid, of course something that is used during a past time is a toy... just because it's not an 'action figure' doesn't mean it's not a toy.

I classify modified cars, boats, jetski's etc as 'toys' they are just 'big boys toys' and therefore I think the PS3 is a toy too... sorry if that insults some of the PS3 fan's masculinity.

Also, I think people need to realise that Nintendo is going to cater for absolutely EVERYONE, that's why a lot of 'mature' game fans seem to insult Nintendo games 'kiddie' ness, Nintendo is a family company and they are never going to be able to win away all of the mature fans from PS3 and Xbox 360, because their primary market is Mature and hardcore gamers, unfortunately I think that is a smaller market than 'everyone else' of which Nintendo is going for.

I myself like to think i'm still a child inside, I love Japanese Anime and cartoons, I collect little gaming figurines and action figures etc... yep I know i'm a nerd, but I'm not so nerdy that I have no social skills and I don't give a damn if people think that's lame... sometimes I think people go in the direction they go just so that they can remain 'cool' to the rest of the world.

Toy's are toys.



Sean Malstrom's articles are very interesting.

 Ms shouldn't have even made xbox or 360, they should have just promoted PC as there platform. That would have saved them loads of cash.

On another note, to whoever said they think that Nintendo would leave the gaming market before MS or Sony, I don't know why a company would leave a market that they are profiting in.



I know that people find Sony pulling out of the industry as asinine, but it’s probable. Personally I think we will see a PS4, but recently I found out that during PS2's life, thus far, it has only made 2 billion dollars.

Sure, sure it’s a good bit of money, but when you contrast and compare how much Nintendo has been able to ascertain even with their last two consoles, which are often labeled failures, it sort of makes you scratch you head as with the biggest console of all time, currently, they couldn’t make more money.

Thing is, Sony uses a lot of loss-leading techniques which have thankfully paid off. PS3 seems to project a future of “failure” as classified by the console industry. Sorry to all the Sony Fanboys out there ( That’s you Hus and Kwaad ) but this is what almost all market analysts are saying.

Now when you contrast and compare the fact that the original Xbox went 4-5 billion in the hole, and 360 has yet to make an ounce of profit, only adding that the previous debt, you start to see how bleak the industry looks for MS if they can’t pull off a victory this round. ( This too also proves doubtful, but Sony’s failures will only be spoils for MS to take.)

Also a few minor notes, Sony didn’t invent mature games, they simply help expand the market. Atari had games like Beatem’ and Eatem’ and Custer’s Revenge. With rather pitiful graphics, you still can’t get more “hardcore” or “mature” then those. XD



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