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disolitude said:
A2B24R246 said:

Windows Phone gets a couple of dozen...and has meager marketshare and looks to be going the way of RIM and Symbian...which is to say dying/dead.

WP going away is your wishful thinking? Because it certanly isn't based on facts. Windows phone marketshare is on the rise...very slowly. Its Windows Mobile that is being phased out which is a completely different platform.

Windows Phone hasn't even started rolling and certanly isn't going away with Windows 8 sharing its design and feature elements... Microsoft is just getting started with Windows Phone.

It is though. Windows phone is actively losing marketshare.

http://www.tgdaily.com/mobility-brief/57750-windows-phone-market-share-falling-fast

http://www.pcworld.com/article/252959/windows_phone_market_share_is_so_small_nielsen_doesnt_even_list_it.html

THe problem is that there is simply no time, its too late in the game iOS and Android are too well established... Unless Microsoft makes enormous strides in a very very short window they are destined to be forgotten. Just look at all the upcoming handset manufacturers, with exception to Nokia everyone is placing their bets on android, all the lastest new tech and highest end phones are going their, and Apple's iPhone will continue to rake in huge sales year after year.



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pezus said:
BasilZero said:
Isnt it too early...?

Didn't iPhone 4S release almost a year ago? :O

Released in October. I'd say it is too zune for it. 



A2B24R246 said:
disolitude said:
A2B24R246 said:

Windows Phone gets a couple of dozen...and has meager marketshare and looks to be going the way of RIM and Symbian...which is to say dying/dead.

WP going away is your wishful thinking? Because it certanly isn't based on facts. Windows phone marketshare is on the rise...very slowly. Its Windows Mobile that is being phased out which is a completely different platform.

Windows Phone hasn't even started rolling and certanly isn't going away with Windows 8 sharing its design and feature elements... Microsoft is just getting started with Windows Phone.

It is though. Windows phone is actively losing marketshare.

http://www.tgdaily.com/mobility-brief/57750-windows-phone-market-share-falling-fast

http://www.pcworld.com/article/252959/windows_phone_market_share_is_so_small_nielsen_doesnt_even_list_it.html

THe problem is that there is simply no time, its too late in the game iOS and Android are too well established... Unless Microsoft makes enormous strides in a very very short window they are destined to be forgotten. Just look at all the upcoming handset manufacturers, with exception to Nokia everyone is placing their bets on android, all the lastest new tech and highest end phones are going their, and Apple's iPhone will continue to rake in huge sales year after year.

Both of those articles are incorrect. They all seem to think that Windows phone = windows mobile and it really isn't the same platform at all. Its a brand new platform which microsoft started from scratch in November 2010 while completely discontinuing Windows Mobile.

To explain better

Windows Phone 7 marketshare in November 2010 - 0%

Windows Mobile 6.5 marketshare in nov 2010 - 7%

 

Windows Phone 7 marketshare in November 2011 - 2%

Windows Mobile 6.5 marketshare in nov 2011 - 3%

 

So Windows phone is gaining marketshare but not as fast as Microsoft wanted it to.

Also its not too late at all. Its never too late. Phone contracts last 2-3 years then the cycle begins again. All windows phone needs is a compelling product and people will buy it. Nokia and Windows Phone 8/Windows 8 desktop integration may be this compelling feature to push the phone to the mainstream.And if it isn't, Microsoft will try again with something else... They are not going anywhere in the mobile space.

There is very little brand loyalty when it comes to non iPhone smartphone buyers and even iPhone users may be persuaded to try Windows phone if Microsoft keeps working at it and is improving it at the rate they are now. 



^ ah I did not know that windows phone market share included the terribad 6.5 and below platforms thanks for that.

Still think that Windows phone won't pan out though, or is simply not worth all the billions that microsoft will throw at it.



If this is true... it better come to T-Mobile! >_> (That would mean thought that I would have to wait even longer for a phone... grr! these rumors better be cleared up soon!)



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I would be more interested to hear about the next upgrades to the iMacs.

If they follow the trend they've started with the iPhone 4S, followed by the iPad 3, I expect their displays to go double their current resolution of 2560 x 1440.

A 5120 x 2880 screen? I'll be getting an iMac later this year, so if they do plan to upgrade their displays to such impressive resolution (or something similar), you can certainly count me in.



A2B24R246 said:
^ ah I did not know that windows phone market share included the terribad 6.5 and below platforms thanks for that.

Still think that Windows phone won't pan out though, or is simply not worth all the billions that microsoft will throw at it.

We will see. Windows 8 will be the key factor to Windows Phone success. Moble is extremely important and microsoft is well diversified company to be able to float a devision for many years until its a success.

They really aren't losing that much money on mobile even with the Nokia partnership. They have the phone OS licensing revenue, advertising and app store revenue from the platform coming in, as well as Android patent revenue. They fronted the xbox for how many years with billions of dollars and I honestly don't think they are yet even a billion dollars in the red with the Windows Phone.



disolitude said:
A2B24R246 said:
^ ah I did not know that windows phone market share included the terribad 6.5 and below platforms thanks for that.

Still think that Windows phone won't pan out though, or is simply not worth all the billions that microsoft will throw at it.

We will see. Windows 8 will be the key factor to Windows Phone success. Moble is extremely important and microsoft is well diversified company to be able to float a devision for many years until its a success.

They really aren't losing that much money on mobile even with the Nokia partnership. They have the phone OS licensing revenue, advertising and app store revenue from the platform coming in, as well as Android patent revenue. They fronted the xbox for how many years with billions of dollars and I honestly don't think they are yet even a billion dollars in the red with the Windows Phone.

Android is saturating the market, with its countless models.  But as far as OSs are concerned, Windows is probably the best one next to iOS.  It does its things differently, yet remains very user friendly.  It didn't settle on just mimicking Apple's iOS like Android did (even though I still like using it, as I have an Xperia Ray) .  

It will be interesting to see it progress from here on out.