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Barozi said:

Then how could someone see that the demos are more advanced than anything on PS3 and Xbox 360 when there is hardly anything comparable to it (for example a SMG type game)
I know what the demos were trying to show, but saying that lighting, reflections and particles are much more advanced by (purposely) sacrifying detailed models and textures is hardly an excuse.
So from what I can see. The full product "God of War 3" looks better than the demos. That doesn't meant that some individual effects might look better in the Wii U demos. However I'm not yet conviced that Wii U graphics are that much better than PS360 judging from the demos.

Last gen we got a Killzone 2 trailer that blew anything available out of the water and it fully delivered. As I said in a different thread, the Samaritan demo is the only one so far that truly looks like next gen to me and that was still done with a modified UE3. UE4 will deliver even more.
Though I'm saying that Wii U will be unable to run UE4 games.

It's not exactly sacrificing detailed models and textures. It's more like they didn't put emphasis on it because that's not what Zelda HD is meant to be. It will still keep a level of cartoonism. The purpose of the demo was to show lighting, reflection and particles and so that's what it focused on. You're right to say it's not a good benchmark to compare against if you're looking at anything other than those 3 points. I agree. But to think that it isn't capable of advanced textures and models with a little work, with an IP better fitted to the task (like GoW as you mentioned), is off the mark.

How can they offer such advanced lighting, reflection and particle effects if the hardware wasn't capable of such? Can they offer that and not detailed textures. It's far-fetched at best. Fair, you could say if they focus on one they can't spare resources for the other, but it really wouldn't hold much water, it's a next-gen system with next-gen specs (ram, cpu, gpu) after all. How could such assumptions be made off the info we currently have. To quote Archbrix again, it's a R700 GPU, POWER7 CPU and superior RAM/eDRAM equipped console. Nothing about this source article makes any sense. It should certainly be more powerful than the 360, and it's arguable at best that the PS3 is on a higher level than the 360. So ultimately, the WiiU is in theory more powerful than both, as far as specs are concerned. So, looking at the tech demo, the assumption that it can't handle high-detail textures and models is clearly near vision. Does it really take a demo showing GoW-like visuals to convince? What about the sakura-bird demo? There were features in that that showcased certain things. Obviously it's not GoW or Samaritan in theme or detail, but it still shows important graphical capabilities. I'm not an expert so I'll leave that up to you and others to dissect.



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"The graphics are just not as powerful"


hahahahahaha



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VGKing said:

Gameindustry.biz isn't just some random site. It is a respectable site.

To be true, gameindustry.biz is more credible than your next door blog, but has already "aired" much absurdity. Dumping the Wii U and celebrate PS3+Vita combo? There is much "gameindustry" behind this article.



The Vita/PS3 combo undercutting Wii U isn't really accurate, though. It fails to take into account that the Vita is sold separately, and at the low end costs at least $250.

Wii U comes with a tablet controller, and will be far cheaper than buying a PS3 and a Vita.



 

zero129 said:
Barozi said:

Well to me both demos didn't look better than God of War 3 so...

Your only kidding right??.


Stop quotting. People likes to believe whatever they want.



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zero129 said:

I guess your right, all their mouths will hit the floor come E3 mark my words :D.

Exactly. Lets better wait until Ninty show games at E3.



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HAHA it’s so funny that the haters believe in the negative news and downplay the positive news!

Are you guys afraid or something? Why is it important to you that it is weaker?


When it’s an unknown person speaking about how weak it is then we believe them but if the unknown person says it’s a lot more powerful then it’s false and we should not believe this anonymous person! lol

Clearly my old news thread did not deliver the message intended…



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Roma said:
HAHA it’s so funny that the haters believe in the negative news and downplay the positive news!

Are you guys afraid or something? Why is it important to you that it is weaker?


When it’s an unknown person speaking about how weak it is then we believe them but if the unknown person says it’s a lot more powerful then it’s false and we should not believe this anonymous person! lol

Clearly my old news thread did not deliver the message intended…

Your sig is appropriate for those people.

 



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Yeah....ok. I think the Wii-U will most likely be outclassed by Sony and MS's next offerings, but no way will it be below current gen specs. No combination of rumors thus far point to that - none. I'll bet pretty much anything on it. At the very worst, the Wii-U will be the Wii of next gen, clearly under powered but more capable then it's last gen counter parts.



some use of common sense would benefit this thread

1. the ps3 and x360 tech are 6 years old and are still selling at the current price they are now. if the tech inside the wii u is to be more powerfull than the ps3 and the x360, then expect the price to be significantly highter

2. the controller is a tablet, which would mean that it would cost a whole lot more than a standard controller, a crapy china tablet can go for $50 or so but its crappy as hell. if Nintendo expects the tablet controller to perform like a decent tablet, expect the price to go up by $80-$150 more.

the way is see it there are two scenarios
1. price point is competitive and comparable to the ps3 and x360, expect the wii u to be at most just as powerfull as the current hd twins and it will still be more expensive due to the tablet controller.

2. wii u to be more powerfull than the current hd twins, then expect it to be way way more expensive due to the newer tech and the tablet controller.

Either way it rolls, people will go "damn its too damn expensive" or "what? its just the same as the ps360? and still more expensive?"