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What Marvel superhero do you enjoy the most?

Iron Man 1 12.50%
 
Thor 0 0%
 
Hulk 0 0%
 
Spiderman 1 12.50%
 
Xmen -post individually below 1 12.50%
 
Ant Man 0 0%
 
other Avenger -post individually below 0 0%
 
GotG- see above example 2 25.00%
 
other post below 0 0%
 
DC bro!!!! 3 37.50%
 
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spurgeonryan said:
AndrewWK said:
okr said:
Watched Shrek Forever After and How to Train Your Dragon today, both for the first time.

Shrek 4 was good, but in the end just more of the same. Shrek 1 is still by far the best.

Dragon was great. Best animation movie of recent years imo along with Toy Story 3 and Tangled. Too bad Dragon will get at least 2 sequels as well. Dreamworks is not as good as Pixar when it comes to sequels.

I wished every animation studio would take the Disney route and not (or only very rarely) make sequels for cinematic release. But who am I kidding, this is the Age of Sequelitis.

Pixar has struggled recently. With movies like Cars, Brave and the biggest animated piece of shit in recent history Cars 2 -.-

But then they made Ratatouille and Wall-E as well in the last few years. It has been an up and down.

Disney owns them now. Since Cars 2 which was a pile of human crap made much much more than Cars did they are happy with it. They know how to sell shit. Add in formula 1 and overseas will eat it up. They knew this would happen. Now the movie is at 559 worldwide I think.  The videogame sold well too! Disney does not care as long as they are making money. Just like when Microsoft bought Rare out. Their soul was devoured and they are now only in place to make money.

I actually liked Cars, but it made a lot of money as well. Same with Brave. The magic is gone but it is still better than a lot of the crap we get such as Madagascar 3....puke!!!

As long as disney keeps making money they will continue to pump out the sequels which is exactly why they bought the company in the first place. To have more control, make sequels, and pad their bottom line. By the way it was a very good risk. 2.1 billion or whatever it is tat they paid for it was probably made back in the first year with merchandise alone.

Disney payed $7.4 billion (in an all-stock transaction) for Pixar, not $2 billion.

These are the two well-known Pixar key people:
John Lasseter - current position: Chief Creative Officer at Pixar Animation Studios and at Walt Disney Animation Studios.
Ed Catmull - current position: President at Pixar Animation Studios and at Walt Disney Animation Studios.

If you guys really think that Pixar struggled recently (the company which had the - unadjusted - highest grossing animation movie of all time just 2 years ago) and/or that it's the Disney executives who force Pixar to do sequels, then Lasseter and Catmull must be schizophrenic, because these two are (together with Disney boss Robert Iger) the guys who decide everything now at Disney-Pixar. Lasseter and Catmull greenlight upcoming Disney-Pixar projects, they decide which Pixar movies get sequels. In addition to his two CCO positions Lasseter is also "Principal Creative Advisor for Walt Disney Imagineering", i.e. he supervises all of Disney's worlwide theme parks. Lasseter also directed two of the three released pixar sequels and the unloved Cars franchise is his very own baby. This isn't: Disney = Sith, Pixar = Jedi, Disney and Pixar are two sides of the same medal now.



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spurgeonryan said:

Why is this idiot smirking? Is he telling us that this movie is going to be fun because he is getting his ass kicked? Or is he telling us that he likes to get the shit beat out of him?

 

 

Sadly, when he is playing crazy fat guy he is usually at his best.

Kevin James was a semi professional Footballer before he started with King of Queens. And I personally think this movie could quite good. Especially because most of movies (Chuck and Larry, Mall Cop) really sucked.



Who the has voted for John Carter? This steaming pile of shit doesn´t even deserve to be up there >.



spurgeonryan said:

Wow! I knew it was something big. Because at the time I was trying to imagine Disney every making their money back from that. I actually said they are doing good now. But they have greenlit sequels galore and some of them have not been great. Cars 2 is the prime example.

Again: It's John Lasseter - the Pixar guy, the man who basically invented modern CGI animation - who greenlit the 3 released and the 2 upcoming (Nemo 2/Monsters 2) Pixar sequels/prequels. He's the man who not only decided to make a Cars sequel but who also decided to direct Cars 2 himself. He's his own boss in that regard. He wasn't forced by Disney - the company which extremely rarely made sequels in its decades of animation history - to do sequels to his Pixar movies. On the day Disney purchased Pixar (in January 2006) Lasseter became the creative head of Disney & Pixar animation. His new role as combined Disney-Pixar animation boss was part of the acquisition deal, so if you want to blame Disney for (future) Pixar sequelitis or a lackluster recent Pixar release, you actually have to blame Mr. Pixar John Lasseter.

BTW: I know we will get more Pixar sequels/prequels in the future, but up to now we only had 3. Toy Story 2 and 3 are brilliant imo, actually two of the best movie sequels I've ever seen.

If Lasseter can be blamed for one thing imo it's the economic risks he takes, in other words: the budget vs. boxoffice ratio which is often lower than at other animation companies. Disney and Pixar movies have become damn expensive, e.g.

Brave: budget 185 mio, worldwide gross 528 mio
Cars 2: budget 200 mio, gross 515 mio
Tangled: budget 260 mio, gross 590 mio

For comparison - Blue Sky Studios (20th Century Fox):
Ice Age 3: budget 90 mio, gross 886 mio
Ice Age 4: budget 95 mio, gross 865 mio
Rio: budget 95 mio, 484 mio



spurgeonryan said:
AndrewWK said:
Who the has voted for John Carter? This steaming pile of shit doesn´t even deserve to be up there >.<


Did you watch it? I thought it was really good. Same with Battleship.

 

 

@ Okr

 

I was not as excited for TS3. It was good, but been there done that for me. The ending was nice and my kids liked it so that is all that matters ...right? Of course they liked Cars 2 as well.

 

I like Pixar.

 

There budgets are a little high like you said though. Rio and other cartoons have good stories and visuals for half the price. why?


I did of course. I would never rant about a movie that I have not seen or about a game I have not played. And John Carter was disaster. Bad acting a dumb story a non existent Logic, and have mentioned the acting was really bad. Of course if was not as bad as Watchmen or Pirates of the Caribean 3 but it was still unwatchable. And I am happy it bombed so hard at the boxoffices so Disney can Focus their efforts on new Projects. But this is just mi opinion.



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AndrewWK said:
Who the has voted for John Carter? This steaming pile of shit doesn´t even deserve to be up there >.<

I did. It was a pleasant surprise. I haven't seen Moonrise kingdom and Looper yet, the Hunger games was slightly disappointing and the rest from that list is all familiar stuff. I just voted for it again, somehow it forgot I already did.

I hold cgi responsible for the sequelites in animation nowadays. It's too easy to re-use all the assets with cgi. I can't think of any cgi movie where a sequel was better then the original imo. Toy story 3 was close, but still did not have the same magic as the first one.
There is a 4th ice age already? Oh well, I guess it's human nature to go for the familiar instead of a new experience.



spurgeonryan said:
Stop cell phone voting for TDKR Pezus!!!! >_<



how do you know its just him?



pezus said:

TDKR is going to be HUUUGE on blu-ray! Got some Wii U action going on there

This makes me sad. It means the end of the greatest movie franchise ever created.

 

 

I am going to cry now.



spurgeonryan said:
gues who's coming to dinner, marathon man

Good movie (thanks to Hepburn, Tracy and Poitier), great movie (thanks to Hoffman, Olivier, Goldman's screenplay and Schlesinger's direction).



Oh yes, Errol Flynn. I think we forgot to nominate him one of the coolest movie stars ever in pezus' Gosling thread.

I got Captain Blood, The Sea Hawk, The Private Lives of Elizabeth and Essex, Dodge City and The Adventures of Robin Hood (my most facvorite Flynn flick) on DVD.

All directed by Flynn's buddy Michal Curtiz by the way, who also directed Angels with Dirty Faces, Casablanca and Yankee Doodle Dandee. He was one of the best and retrospectively most influential immigrant directors of Hollywood's golden era.

If you like Errol Flynn you should defnitely read David Niven's revealing and funny autobiography "Bring On the Empty Horses" http://www.amazon.com/Bring-Empty-Horses-Hodder-Great/dp/0340839953 Niven was a close friend of Flynn and his co-star in The Charge of the Light Brigade (also directed by Michael Curtiz). Hilarious book, probably one of the best pieces ever written about Hollywood by a true insider.