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Did I once say the gaming division? Geesh

I was just sharing info but alot of people just try and search for something negative to put against sony. All I was saying is that it costs as much or less to CREATE a PS3 than they sell it for at retail.

That is something a lot of ppl on this site didnt believe was possible for a long time. Thats all I am saying. They have a long way to go before the whole division will profit because even first party titles cost a lot to make.



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While this is not a return to profittability (yet) it is great news for Sony. Unlike MS they cannot substain huge losses forever, and as it is they may never realize a net profit for this whole generation. So the sooner they get back into the black, the better it is for them, and by extention all us who enjoy playing their games.



 

HappySqurriel said:
Just_Ben said:
Naraku_Diabolos said:

$400 - $400 = $0 lol So they aren't making money...or am I reading it wrong?

And Sony would have to announce this themselves. It would be all over IGN, GameSpot, 1up etc.


Sony won't announce it. Had anybody here ever heared from any manufacturer what productions of their gaming machine costs? Sony will never announce such a thing.

Sony will indirectly announce this for those who are willing to look ...

Their fiscal 2009 report will come out (probably) in March or April and will have revenue and profit forcasts (as well as software sales forcasts) for the playstation division; if Sony has small profit projections it would imply that they were still losing money on hardware, if they're much larger that would imply that they were breaking even or turning a profit.

Being that Sony's CEO predicted (not too long ago) that the Playstation division would break even sometime in 2009 I still doubt this report

 


QFT. I'll trust Sony's financial report over a random website any time. In a financial report, Sony is legally obligated to tell the truth without spin, unlike what happens in their PR. As you said, Sony has stated multiple times that they're not breaking even any time soon on each PS3 sold.

 



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HappySqurriel said:
Just_Ben said:
Naraku_Diabolos said:

$400 - $400 = $0 lol So they aren't making money...or am I reading it wrong?

And Sony would have to announce this themselves. It would be all over IGN, GameSpot, 1up etc.


Sony won't announce it. Had anybody here ever heared from any manufacturer what productions of their gaming machine costs? Sony will never announce such a thing.

Sony will indirectly announce this for those who are willing to look ...

Their fiscal 2009 report will come out (probably) in March or April and will have revenue and profit forcasts (as well as software sales forcasts) for the playstation division; if Sony has small profit projections it would imply that they were still losing money on hardware, if they're much larger that would imply that they were breaking even or turning a profit.

Being that Sony's CEO predicted (not too long ago) that the Playstation division would break even sometime in 2009 I still doubt this report

 

Not if they allready expecting another price drop this year, thats more than likley.

 



I think it's likely that sony are making a profit in europe but a loss in amerca due to the weak dollar. In the uk the PS3 costs $600 for the 40gb. I simply cant see them losing money on it after all the cost savings they've made



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Just as a point of interest does anyone know if sony make a profit on the sale of psp hardware and if so how much?



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"Being that Sony's CEO predicted (not too long ago) that the Playstation division would break even sometime in 2009 I still doubt this report"

Does this mean break even for all their losses over PS3 over just that year? Even if they are breaking even on the hardware now they still have a long ways to go on  breaking even of the whole cost.



I wonder if Sony can drop the price $100 this year and bring back BC?



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It's really strange to hear these revelations, especially with the recent news about braking even in fiscal year 2009. Above all else we have to remember that much of the money that sony gains in Europe they already lost it in Japan, where the PS3's are very cheap. In that sense, everythig almost evens out to 0$ on production costs (assuming that this news is true) but we have to add in shipping, 3,5 billion dollars losses, and the fact that i don't think that Sony has a way to further cut the costs in the PS3. I mean : they already took out most of the pricey stuff like EE, BC etc. , they changed the processor to 65 nm technology type and whatnot. What else can they actually do right now to further bring down the costs? I think that it'll take another year for a different price cut.



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Nice, 400$ costing ps3,
and to think that in Europe their sale ps3 for 400 euro, that is 600$.

PS3 FTW! =))



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2009.04.30 - PS3 will OUTSELL x360 atleast by the middle of 2010. Japan+Europe > NA.


Gran Turismo 3 - 1,06 mln. in 3 weeks with around 4 mln. PS2 on the launch.
Gran Turismo 4 - 1,16 mln. with 18 mln. PS2 on the launch.

Final Fantasy X - around 2 mln. with 5 mln. PS2 on the launch.
Final Fantasy X-2 - 2.4 mln. with 12 mln. PS2 on the launch.

 

1.8 mln. PS3 today(2008.01.17) in Japan. Now(2009.04.30) 3.16 mln. PS3 were sold in Japan.
PS3 will reach 4 mln. in Japan by the end of 2009 with average weekly sales 25k.

PS3 may reach 5 mln. in Japan by the end of 2009 with average weekly sales 50k.
PS2 2001 vs PS3 2008 sales numbers =) + New games released in Japan by 2009 that passed 100k so far