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Andrespetmonkey on 21 March 2012

Attack: Make him tired first without tiring yourself out, save your hardest punches for when he's most vulnerable. If you get a chance, punch him as hard as you can in the tailbone area, this can hurt A LOT and will take him by surprise, if he holds it in agony, deliver another fist to his stomach. Another sweet spot is right between the eyebrows, if you punch him there he may become very disorientated for a couple seconds, leaving him very vulnerable. I'd say if you're going to kick, aim for the knee area, it'll be hard for him to grab your leg and he may lose his balance.

Defense: Just stay out of his reach, do not get held down in any way and if you're going to kick, keep it low. (if he grabs your leg in the air you're screwed).

Do you mind telling us why you're going to fight him?



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blkfish92 on 21 March 2012
Barozi said:
you just need to break his neck.


Reported for implying to kill someone! =p

Well anyway, I say you aim for the stomach, sides and maybe you'll hit his liver or one of his kidneys. Even if you don't, fat guys get hurt real bad for getting hit in their stomach, it's not a pillow.



           

Jay520 on 21 March 2012
theprof00 said:
Weakspots for fights:

Quick punch to the throat
Knee to the side of the kneecap (important, it's not a kick-type knee, you put all your weight into it and press down)
purple nurple (especially with fatties) Really any skin attack hurts with fatties. Getting a nice claw grip into the smoother fatty skin and squeezing it really hard is good. Back, chest, neck, rib cage.
clock to the ear/temple (clock is hitting with the open part of your fist, where the fingers show.
elbow to really anywhere (lower back especially, and top of head)

Too bad you don't know aikido, that's like made for fighting bigger people.
Fighting bigger people you need to control his movements and balance. Look up some aikido videos. Don't study the techniques, but take a look at how they stand. You stand with one arm kind of out, because what you're doing is baiting them to grab it, then you switch your stance, grab his wrist with your free one, step backwards, and suddenly you're in complete control.
Don't really try this kind of moves though, just keep in mind that you're trying to bait him.
Bigger guys are stronger, and you need to use their own weight against them to really make an impact.


WoW, thanks for all of these suggestions! They really seem helpful, except for the throat punch, we're not trying to kill each other.

Oh an purple nurple, really? Wouldn't that leave my face open for a flurry of attacks?

M.U.G.E.N on 21 March 2012
Jay520 said:
M.U.G.E.N said:
Jay520 said:
M.U.G.E.N said:
TruckOSaurus said:
Are kicks off limits? You'll have better range and you'll be able to pull them off much quicker than him.


excellent suggestion as well. Especially few good low kicks to the legs should deplete his stamina real fast


I don't know. I'll definitely confirm if kicks are allowed or not. If so, I'll definitely use them to my advantage.

But thinking about it, I've never really through a powerful kick before. I'm going to have to practise those over the next three days. I don't wanna look silly throwing weak & uncoordinated kicks at the fight.

look at the video I posted, they won't be too hard to learn. Do the while moving around a great deal and the man will be tired real real fast..then you can just go crazy..elbows and knees are also very useful if the opponent is stronger than you physically. An elbow or a knee to the solar plexus or face could pretty much end the fight right then and there


Thanks, MUGEN. I'll practise those starting today. .

Very conveneint (sp?) that you had that video ready.

lol nah I looked up low kicks on youtube

I am a bit of a martial arts junky you see and as the prof mentioned earlier Aikido is a very good martial art for situations like these and I have practised Aikido for a few years and my brother is a senior in Jeet Kun Do. My Aikido background is what lead me to suggest you the focus on his fingers earlier. Fingers are extremely weak no matter who your opponent is..if you can grab them, bend them backwords and push towards the ground with your own body weight behind it, ANYONE can and will go to their knees to avoid breaking the fingers. Same theory applies for ears. Low kicks and quick punches while moving are also very good against big opponents. Aikido has many throws to use the weight of the opponent against him but those things need practice...even I'm out of touch due to lack of practice.

hahahha man Do I love martial arts or what..and I really wanna see my fellow vgc brother win this one ;)



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Jay520 on 21 March 2012
bouzane said:
Jay520 said:
As the title implies, I will be fighting a fat guy in three days (Saturday). Don't try to talk me out of it, it's definitely happening. I have to fight him for my honor.

So, here's some facts. The guy is about my height, maybe an inch taller, and he's like one-hundred pounds heavier than me. I'm pretty sure he has bad cardio, he doesn't do sports or anything besides lifting weights. He does play basketball occasionally, so he at least can last a few minutes before being exhausted.

I, on the other, run track and in much better shape and I'm pretty sure I'm faster. Other than the occasional push-up/sit-up/pull-up etc session, I don't do much muscular training so he probably has a muscular advantage.

So, do you guys have any advice on how to approach this guy? I was think I would start off dancing around him, throwing a few jabs, not really trying anything. This is just to get him tired because I know I can last longer than him. After that, I go in for actual punches. I'm not going to stay in his distance too long though because he could use his superior strength to grapple with me. After he's really tired, then I'll go in for the power punches and hopefully end the fight right there. What do you guys think about this strategy?

Anyone know a weak spot for fat guys? Of course, you go for the face, but I don't wanna get too predictable. I was thinking about striking his solar plexus to confuse him before going with the face shots. Any more weak spots?

For the next three days, I'll be eating a lot of protein and watching some UFC so I can tone my mind/body for the intesities. Anyone have any dietary advice?

Any more advice? I'll check back here Saturday to let you know how the fight went.

Thanks


Muscle mass increases metabolism and burns calories, thus preventing one from becoming fat in the first place. Most fat people are not as strong as you would think, especially in terms of upper body strength. The best advice I can give you is to fight aggressively as you likely have a physique more suited to fighting. Also, if he tries to get pushy, redirect his own momentum and throw him. Get some help with basic throwing and grappling if possible (watching UFC does not count, sorry). Remember to strike fast, hooks and uppercuts are slow and leave you vulnerable. Use jabs, crosses, knee strikes and elbow strikes. Practice your striking before the fight to help yourself become comfortable with these techniques. This will have the added benefit of allowing you to increase your speed and build muscle memory. No dietary advice is necessary at this point, the fight is too close to worry about that. The only thing I can recommend as far as what you eat is to consume a fairly light meal before the fight consisting of eggs, toast and plenty of fresh fruit. This should provide the simple sugars and carbohydrates needed for the fight. Good luck, remember that you have an advantage that if properly utilized, will allow you to attain victory.



Well, I've seen him lift some pretty heavy weights. I'm almost certain he has a strength advantage. I'll take your advice with the pre-fight meal into consideration.

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bouzane on 21 March 2012
Jay520 said:
bouzane said:
Jay520 said:
As the title implies, I will be fighting a fat guy in three days (Saturday). Don't try to talk me out of it, it's definitely happening. I have to fight him for my honor.

So, here's some facts. The guy is about my height, maybe an inch taller, and he's like one-hundred pounds heavier than me. I'm pretty sure he has bad cardio, he doesn't do sports or anything besides lifting weights. He does play basketball occasionally, so he at least can last a few minutes before being exhausted.

I, on the other, run track and in much better shape and I'm pretty sure I'm faster. Other than the occasional push-up/sit-up/pull-up etc session, I don't do much muscular training so he probably has a muscular advantage.

So, do you guys have any advice on how to approach this guy? I was think I would start off dancing around him, throwing a few jabs, not really trying anything. This is just to get him tired because I know I can last longer than him. After that, I go in for actual punches. I'm not going to stay in his distance too long though because he could use his superior strength to grapple with me. After he's really tired, then I'll go in for the power punches and hopefully end the fight right there. What do you guys think about this strategy?

Anyone know a weak spot for fat guys? Of course, you go for the face, but I don't wanna get too predictable. I was thinking about striking his solar plexus to confuse him before going with the face shots. Any more weak spots?

For the next three days, I'll be eating a lot of protein and watching some UFC so I can tone my mind/body for the intesities. Anyone have any dietary advice?

Any more advice? I'll check back here Saturday to let you know how the fight went.

Thanks


Muscle mass increases metabolism and burns calories, thus preventing one from becoming fat in the first place. Most fat people are not as strong as you would think, especially in terms of upper body strength. The best advice I can give you is to fight aggressively as you likely have a physique more suited to fighting. Also, if he tries to get pushy, redirect his own momentum and throw him. Get some help with basic throwing and grappling if possible (watching UFC does not count, sorry). Remember to strike fast, hooks and uppercuts are slow and leave you vulnerable. Use jabs, crosses, knee strikes and elbow strikes. Practice your striking before the fight to help yourself become comfortable with these techniques. This will have the added benefit of allowing you to increase your speed and build muscle memory. No dietary advice is necessary at this point, the fight is too close to worry about that. The only thing I can recommend as far as what you eat is to consume a fairly light meal before the fight consisting of eggs, toast and plenty of fresh fruit. This should provide the simple sugars and carbohydrates needed for the fight. Good luck, remember that you have an advantage that if properly utilized, will allow you to attain victory.


Well, I've seen him lift some pretty heavy weights. I'm almost certain he has a strength advantage. I'll take your advice with the pre-fight meal into consideration.


How much weight are we talking about and what kind of lifts?

 

Edit: Lifting weights and trowing punches are two entirely different things, a good punch requires more speed and technique than anything. Remember to practice those punches and elbow strikes religiously in the coming days.



theprof00 on 21 March 2012
Jay520 said:
theprof00 said:
Weakspots for fights:

Quick punch to the throat
Knee to the side of the kneecap (important, it's not a kick-type knee, you put all your weight into it and press down)
purple nurple (especially with fatties) Really any skin attack hurts with fatties. Getting a nice claw grip into the smoother fatty skin and squeezing it really hard is good. Back, chest, neck, rib cage.
clock to the ear/temple (clock is hitting with the open part of your fist, where the fingers show.
elbow to really anywhere (lower back especially, and top of head)

Too bad you don't know aikido, that's like made for fighting bigger people.
Fighting bigger people you need to control his movements and balance. Look up some aikido videos. Don't study the techniques, but take a look at how they stand. You stand with one arm kind of out, because what you're doing is baiting them to grab it, then you switch your stance, grab his wrist with your free one, step backwards, and suddenly you're in complete control.
Don't really try this kind of moves though, just keep in mind that you're trying to bait him.
Bigger guys are stronger, and you need to use their own weight against them to really make an impact.


WoW, thanks for all of these suggestions! They really seem helpful, except for the throat punch, we're not trying to kill each other.

Oh an purple nurple, really? Wouldn't that leave my face open for a flurry of attacks?

You're not running up to him and doing that lol

This is like, say he grabs you by the shirt and you can't really move.

Also, if you get too close for comfort, headbutt his face.



dr3b on 21 March 2012

Leg kicks, watch his punches and movements for openings, use his weight against him if possible.
You don't want to hit him square on the cheek, but a glancing blow off the chin... put him out if you do it right.

That said fighting doesn't solve anything, but if he initiated it what can you do.



Jay520 on 21 March 2012
Andrespetmonkey said:

Do you mind telling us why you're going to fight him?


I know this sounds immature, but it started when he called me an assface. As generic as that name is, I retaliated and made a remark on his weight. Apparently he's very sensitive about his weight and got angry. Eventually, we settled on having a fight this Saturday.

Red4ADevil on 21 March 2012

Before he sits on you, kick him in the shins. With all that weight on his lower extremeties; should I say......timber?