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John Carter is a fantastic movie! if you haven't seen it go and see it.
Its also doing alright outside of America and there is already talk of John Carter 2 (There are 11 books)

This also has nothing to do with Uncharted.



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The marketing for JC was confusing, speaking as one of the VFX, sci-fi film buffs movies like this are custom tailored for. I know the protagonist is John Carter, the film had a massive budget and features a lot of expensive VFX shots to include a bunch of alien creatures.

I literally know nothing about the story or the eponymous lead character so I would literally be watching this to see the VFX, which is generally something better done on DVD/BD so I can watch the making of features.

The lack of any toy line (may be a draw for children, but I'm hard pressed to come up with a recent movie that was made better by a good toy line) or a bankable/recognizable leading man has nothing to do with my general indifference to the film.



Have to admit that the trailer really fucked up any chance of people seeing the film. I saw the trailer and thought the film looked awful. A lady i worked with didn't even know it was a scifi movie ffs!
Only reason I ended up seeing it was work related and it wasn't as bad as it looked (still wasn't great imo but it was passable and there were certain things I liked more than i thought I would).

So, yeah, the key to a films success is a) don't make a film that stinks and b) market the fucker properly.



$180,417,332 in less than 2 weeks is a flop now?

http://boxofficemojo.com/movies/?page=main&id=johncarterofmars.htm



Noooo. There must never be an Uncharted movie. It would be bad, just like nearly every VG--> movie adaptation. I can't say every adaptation is bad, but I don't think there are any that rise above mediocre.

Even though John Carter is doing OK outside the USA, the fact that is cost Disney $250 million to make means it's going to lose Disney quite a lot of money. In general the movie needs to gross ~190% of the production budget for the studio to break even. That means John Carter needs to gross about $475 million. It's basically impossible for John Carter to gross that much with how poorly it's doing in the USA.

If a studio can make an Uncharted movie for about $50 million then it's almost guaranteed to make a profit even if it's only half decent. All of the Resident Evil movies made a profit because they kepts the budgets low even though they well and truly kept the tradition of not being very good and only made modest box office grosses; though afterlife was a genuine blockbuster outside the USA with $230 million. Prince of Persia made a lot of money at the box office, but the studio spent way too much on the movie so it didn't break even, again because the US audience largely stayed away from the movie, it actually did very well outside the USA. Just like John Carter will do, though John Carter will do worse across the board. I think John Carter will top out at under $250 million globally, so Disney can expect to lose a little over $100 million.

The lesson with VG adaptations is keep budgets down and you will make a profit. Spend blockbuster like money on production and you're in for a loss.



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Yonyx said:
$180,417,332 in less than 2 weeks is a flop now?

http://boxofficemojo.com/movies/?page=main&id=johncarterofmars.htm


Everything goes for the "sky is falling" theories.

I stopped caring at the point where he tries to find a connection between John carter, a movie touted in hte media to be the new generation star wars and Uncharted, an Indiana Jones like kind of story in a modern/tomb raider setting. I jus cant see what one has to do with the other... but it doesnt stop anyone it seems.



John Carter had a terrible marketing campaign. The trailer made it look like Prince of Persia 2.



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badgenome said:
I don't really think it will affect it much. Uncharted will flop no matter who is the star, if it even gets made at all.


Uncharted doesn't need to be made into a movie.  The games already are movies. 


No, they are games.

Piracy isn't stealing either.



Also, Uncharted will never be made into a movie. Discussion of a movie baing made doesn't mean it will be made by any means. Ever game ever made that has a plot and setting feasable for a film made in the past 10 years has had talks of a film being made on it.

Usually doesn't happen and if it does is nearly always completely awful.

The only good game->movie would be resident evil 1 and it wasn't that good anyway. Silent hill wasn't bad in a kind of ropey weird way. If i hadn't played the games even those films would have been awful.



John Carter has nothing to do with Uncharted so its hard to say.

John Carter not doing so well has to do with a number of things though. Previews made it look like Conan in space. Not a good vibe. With nothing contemporary about it, (including absence of dubstep from its trailers) it just didn't click with audiances. There is just nothing noteworthy about it.