http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-oS4WLui3Q&feature=g-vrec&context=G2e2d2bbRVAAAAAAAABw
edit: got embed to work,
dicuss!
thats annoying, embed wont work.
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Haven't watched but the Democrats have a much more racist history than the Republicans. The Democrats only really became the progressives on the issue once JFK was elected.
| Rath said: Haven't watched but the Democrats have a much more racist history than the Republicans. The Democrats only really became the progressives on the issue once JFK was elected. |
It was a video showing how the Democrats are really the racist party. And I think it implied they[Dems] are going to go on a killing spree like the nazis and the Chinese communists. Or at least that's what I picked up from it.
The facism thing was pretty interesting though
TadpoleJackson said:
The facism thing was pretty interesting though |
no thats not the point at all.
the point was just to show the Republican party has very little racist ties or background to racism, even into the 20th century.
with the racist likes of Woodrow Wilson, FDR, Robert Byrd, or all the democrats that kept going against the civil rights act. it was constantly Republicans that tried to get the civil rights act passed, 1st during Dwight Eisenhower, but that got filibustered by democrats, then many years later, the civil rights act finally passed under LBJ thanks to the republicans in congress, who voted for it in much higher numbers than the democrats.
| Rath said: Haven't watched but the Democrats have a much more racist history than the Republicans. The Democrats only really became the progressives on the issue once JFK was elected. |
What I was thinking.
Really, even a lot of progressive issues are based on racism.
It's just what i would call... "What can you do" racism.
Is a scholarship that gives money to people of a certain skin color racist?
Yes.
So is the United Negro College Fund Racist?
Yes. But Black people are behind in college students racially because of past racism... so what can you do?
The problem with modern political discourse is that every side of the arguement likes to present themselves as if there position will be better at every single thing ever and there are never any downsides.
When a real adult discourse would be to look at the pros and cons of both, and decide what is worth it.
Is having a racist collegefund worth it, if it infact brings the races closer together as far as equality goes?
Is it healthy to view races as "Teams" despite the fact that Bill Gates doesn't care anymore about a poor white kid in harlem then he does a poor black kid.
If it isn't healthy to view races as "Teams" what recourse then is there to take care of those who suffered in the past of such categories? Espiecally considering recent research suggests that suggests that early life situations effect your children. (IE being malnutritioned as a child actually makes it more likely for your child to be malnutritioned, even when accounting for all other factors.)
There are so many facets, arguements and philosophical debates to be had about issuse... but unfortunitly, rarely does it ever get past the inital stage of "My Dad is better then your Dad at everything."
Watched it now. It's a stretch for him to claim that the Democrats are racists, ever since JFK they've done far more for civil rights than the Republicans.
Also the Nazi's may have had socialism in their name but they certainly weren't socialist. Nor were the Italian facists. Not the the Republican party is facist either.
As for the greed thing - the reason Republicans are accused of being greedy is because their plans for tax tend to favour the rich more than the Democrats plans.
@killerZX the important thing to watch in terms of racism is basically which way the South votes. This is a pre-civil rights presidential election (1956)
This is the first post Civil Rights (1964) election (which was just after the assassination of JFK).
Basically the Democrats completely reinvented themselves over the issue and swapped strongholds with the Republicans who previously couldn't get votes in the South and since then can't lose them.
The Nazis actually were funny... in that they were the best example of "Extreme authoritarian moderates."
| Rath said: Watched it now. It's a stretch for him to claim that the Democrats are racists, ever since JFK they've done far more for civil rights than the Republicans. i dont think he was claiming that, i think he was just, debunking the myth that republicans were/are. but it is usually always democrats who like to divide people into different groups and view people as different groups, not just as people, everyone has to be subdivided.
thats another myth too, first of which i would agrue that the social welfare programs have done more harm to the poor than any other policy. further more according to the IRS berfore the busch tax cuts, the tops 1% of income earners paid 37% of income tax, afterwards around 2008 they paid 39%. furthermore before bush tax cuts top 5% paid 56%, after they paid 60%
@killerZX the important thing to watch in terms of racism is basically which way the South votes. This is a pre-civil rights presidential election (1956)
This is the first post Civil Rights (1964) election (which was just after the assassination of JFK).
Basically the Democrats completely reinvented themselves over the issue and swapped strongholds with the Republicans who previously couldn't get votes in the South and since then can't lose them. i think this was referenced kind of in the video, by him talking about the whole social welfare system, and still after JFK you had people robert byrd, and LBJ (the president of the sentate who lead filibusters against the civil right bill, thats right LBJ was one of the biggest opponents of civil rights) also the civil right bill would have never passed if it werent for all the republicans who voted for it, in much higher numbers and % to than the democrts |
In my opinion, while the political left consistently enacts (or protects) legislation which makes the lives of marginalized individuals in visible minority groups worse the primary driving factor to this isn’t racism; it is the unfortunate side-effect of prioritizing good-intentions over outcomes. At the same time, the political right is constantly called racist because they are unwilling to abandon reason to endorse these well-intentioned poorly reasoned laws.
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