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non-gravity said:
Mummelmann said:
Truly shocking and surprising news. Well, at least the papacy signed the fact that the earth was round in the 1990's so we still have that...

The Vatican accepted that the earth was round before Galileo was born. Galileo was a giant arrogant dick in expressing his views which is why at a certain point the church had to go after him. He embraced the Copernican model which wasn't exactly right and refuted Kepler's ellipses.


As non-gravity said, the argument wasnt about the round earth...it as about whether or not the earth traveled around the sun or vice versa. The church said the earth was the center (supported by scripture), Galileo said the sun was the center (supported by scientific observation).

Galileo was put under house arrest for promoting the FACT that the earth went around the sun. Doesnt matter how much of dick he was...you shouldnt be put under house arrest for being a dick...he wasnt he was put under house arrest for being a dick...he was put under house arrest for disobeying the church and promoting the FACT that the earth goes around the sun which was heresy to the church.

Non-gravity can you provide examples of how Galileo was a "dick"..what exactly did he do that makes you describe him as adick, and why does being a dick justify house arrest for life? You also know that the church has since more-or-less apologized for what happened to Galleo, right?



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non-gravity said:
Mummelmann said:
Truly shocking and surprising news. Well, at least the papacy signed the fact that the earth was round in the 1990's so we still have that...

The Vatican accepted that the earth was round before Galileo was born. Galileo was a giant arrogant dick in expressing his views which is why at a certain point the church had to go after him. He embraced the Copernican model which wasn't exactly right and refuted Kepler's ellipses.


Accepted, yes. But the official document was signed by John Paul II in the 90's. I'm sure he was aware of the fact himself, but its till funny...

Its kinda like the (still standing) law in England that states that you can kill on sight any Scotsman armed with bow and arrow within the city limits.



And I also denounce pedophiles ;D



Last time I checked marriage pre-dates not only Christianity but organized religion as a whole. The Pope does not rightly get to define what is and is not marriage, it is not a Christian institution.



spurgeonryan said:
ChristianTheAtheist said:
Who gives an "f" about the pope and what he says, this shouldn't be news.


Well, maybe not to an atheist, but it matters to a lot of others. Basically the Pope is saying .."In my opinion", that if you are a gay or lesbian then you are going to hell, and that if you support gay marriage then you are wrong. It matters to a lot of people. Just because you think the Pope means nothing since you are an atheist , you still need to think about the rest of the world. You cannot let anything blind you to the fact that there are others who are not like you in this world.

You rocked it. What a good post. :)



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http://dignitycanada.org/keep-homosexuality-illegal-says-pope.html

Not only does the Pope oppose gay-marriage, he believes that people should be subjected to prison (and the likely torture that accompanies prison time in developing nations) for practicing it. This is an affront to the teachings of Jesus, it's almost like the Pope is leading people away from the way of life that he supposedly follows.



Gay marriage will never be recognized by the catholic church (or numerous others). But we already knew this.



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Well, duh, of course HE does



Says the idiot wearing golden embroidered robes and red Prada shoes.



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