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Which FPS series has the best single player campaign?

Battlefield 4 1.07%
 
BioShock 99 26.54%
 
Call of Duty 15 4.02%
 
Killzone 31 8.31%
 
Halo 80 21.45%
 
Resistance 23 6.17%
 
Other... specify! 77 20.64%
 
See results 44 11.80%
 
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Dr.Grass on 08 March 2012
TWRoO said:
Dr.Grass said:
TWRoO said:
Dr.Grass said:
TWRoO said:
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curl-6 said:
The Metroid Prime trilogy.

 

Not an FPS. Not even close

I don't understand why it has become indoctrinated that FPS is a genre of video game in it's own right.

The 'FP' in FPS stands for 'First Person'... this has nothing to do with the genre of the game, it is a game mechanic. It's like using the difference between 2D and 3D platformers and calling them different genres. It's prefectly ok to seperate between the two because they have different gameplay mechanics, but Super Mario Galaxy and Super Mario Bros. 3 are still both platformers. The 'S' for 'Shooter' is something that you do in the game, it could be argued that as the game is about shooting that Shooter is a game genre. Personally I don't see it that way for any game that has a proper story or varied gameplay, a shooter as a genre would be something more akin to asteroids or galaga where all you do in the game is shoot and move about. Alternately many games are cross-genre so it's perfectly possible for something to be both a shooter and an adventure game. Either way it cannot be argued that Metroid Prime isn't a shooter.

The genre of a game is what it's about... For me the majority of FPS games are in the vast genre called Action games. Action games encompass a wide variety of sub-genres such as shooters (in both FP and TP camera forms) fighters and platformers.

Metroid Prime series is still an FPS, but it's in the Action-Adventure genre instead of just Action.

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I haven't played it but isn't Bioshock an FPS-RPG (maybe to less of an extent than Deus-Ex, but I thought it had enough RPG elements to be different from normal Action FPS)

Also Portal is still an FPS, but it's a Puzzle-FPS

Battalion Wars is in Third Person but if it were in First Person perspective it would be a Strategy FPS.

You are conveniently ignoring the 'S' that stands for shooter.

Going by your logic one might as well put Gears of War and Skyrim in the TPC genre. They are both Third Person Combat games after all aren't they.

The nuances in gaming design make it special. You people are forgetting that.

No I didn't. I mentioned it in the bolded section, and stated I personally don't think of 'shooters' to be a major genre on it's own, but rather something you do in the game (part of the gameplay), rather than what the game is (the genre)

I can see though why shooter can be considered a genre for the likes of CoD/Halo etc, but if Halo and CoD can be included into the shooter genre simply because they are about shooting things, then so can Metroid Prime, because it is also about shooting things. All three games are about more than just shooting, but it still forms a major part of the gameplay.

Yes the Metroid Prime series is special, there are not many action/adventure games that are played primarily from a first person perspective (though lots have a first person view incorporated, like Zelda) and even fewer that are shooters.


I rest my case.

And I re-iterate mine... again.

1st red text: I don't like describing most FPS as being in the shooter genre because they are more than traditional shooters, they are action games where you fire weapons.

Middle paragraph: Explanation of how FPS can still be called shooters, an explanation which does not exclude Metroid from the same categorisation.

Last red text: Given that you used the start of the same sentence to try disprove me I wonder how you missed the end of the sentence where I again describe Metroid Prime as a shooter (then again i am a little confused as to how the parts you bolded help with your case)


The Germans use the term 'Ego Shooter' for what we refer to as FPS. This perfectly encapsulates what FPS means. Also, Prime would never be considered in that category.

 

May I ask if you played and finished one of the Prime games (especially the first 2) ?



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TWRoO on 08 March 2012
Dr.Grass said:


The Germans use the term 'Ego Shooter' for what we refer to as FPS. This perfectly encapsulates what FPS means. Also, Prime would never be considered in that category.

 

May I ask if you played and finished one of the Prime games (especially the first 2) ?

All three. MP to 100%, MP2 I completed the main game but didn't get 100%, and MP3 Completed to 100% on the lower two difficulties, and everything but the last boss on the highest difficulty. All were on the Wii though if that makes any difference.

And to say it again, I am not stating that the Primes are not a lot different than the usual 'Ego shooter', it is merely my opinion that the term FPS has little to do with the genre of the game. If I were to compare it to books for example, the genre can be 'Horror' or 'Fantasy' or 'Mystery'. Books can also be written in first or third person perspectives, but I think the argument I put for FPS vs. TPS was good enough before (FPS and TPS may play differently, but that doesn't have any effect on the genre of each game). The sticking point seems to be the term 'shooter'... which in book terms I guess would be more of a literary device (e.g. juxtaposition) that can be used across genre without otherwise effecting it.

 

To ask you a question or two: Do you consider Deus Ex to be an FPS or not? I believe it's possible to go through most of that game without firing, but to me that doesn't stop it being an FPS.
Battalion Wars to me is an Action-Strategy game by genre, but does that stop it being a TPS?



amp316 on 08 March 2012

In my opinion, the reason that most Nintendo fans don't want Metroid Prime to be considered a FPS is because of the stigma attached to the genre. Many people consider FPS to be brainless, but his isn't necessarily true. It's just true of most of the modern FPS.



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Moonhero on 08 March 2012

Homefront. Yes it is short, but I love the story.



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Dr.Grass on 08 March 2012
TWRoO said:
Dr.Grass said:


The Germans use the term 'Ego Shooter' for what we refer to as FPS. This perfectly encapsulates what FPS means. Also, Prime would never be considered in that category.

 

May I ask if you played and finished one of the Prime games (especially the first 2) ?

All three. MP to 100%, MP2 I completed the main game but didn't get 100%, and MP3 Completed to 100% on the lower two difficulties, and everything but the last boss on the highest difficulty. All were on the Wii though if that makes any difference.

And to say it again, I am not stating that the Primes are not a lot different than the usual 'Ego shooter', it is merely my opinion that the term FPS has little to do with the genre of the game. If I were to compare it to books for example, the genre can be 'Horror' or 'Fantasy' or 'Mystery'. Books can also be written in first or third person perspectives, but I think the argument I put for FPS vs. TPS was good enough before (FPS and TPS may play differently, but that doesn't have any effect on the genre of each game). The sticking point seems to be the term 'shooter'... which in book terms I guess would be more of a literary device (e.g. juxtaposition) that can be used across genre without otherwise effecting it.

 

To ask you a question or two: Do you consider Deus Ex to be an FPS or not? I believe it's possible to go through most of that game without firing, but to me that doesn't stop it being an FPS.
Battalion Wars to me is an Action-Strategy game by genre, but does that stop it being a TPS?


I'm not sure why we're having this debate if you don't consider 'FPS' a genre.

If you want to lable every single game that has some sort of projectile weopon and is viewed from the character's 1st person perspective as an FPS, then I guess the term FPS is secondary to you since the main genre of the title isn't contained therein. In fact, you should then lable almost all story driven games as FPS or TPS since that's how they play. I don't like what you'Re doing.

Respect for finishing all three. They were majestic.



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Barozi on 08 March 2012
trasharmdsister12 said:
Moonhero said:
Homefront. Yes it is short, but I love the story.

I've heard mixed reviews but was really interested in the plot setup and enjoyed watching the opening. Maybe I'll try to get around to it soon. Good to see that it's worthy of mention in this thread.

graphics are garbage and the game is incredibly short.... but yes the campaign is not bad. Finished it 3 times to get all achievements lol.



TWRoO on 08 March 2012
Dr.Grass said:
TWRoO said:
Dr.Grass said:


The Germans use the term 'Ego Shooter' for what we refer to as FPS. This perfectly encapsulates what FPS means. Also, Prime would never be considered in that category.

 

May I ask if you played and finished one of the Prime games (especially the first 2) ?

All three. MP to 100%, MP2 I completed the main game but didn't get 100%, and MP3 Completed to 100% on the lower two difficulties, and everything but the last boss on the highest difficulty. All were on the Wii though if that makes any difference.

And to say it again, I am not stating that the Primes are not a lot different than the usual 'Ego shooter', it is merely my opinion that the term FPS has little to do with the genre of the game. If I were to compare it to books for example, the genre can be 'Horror' or 'Fantasy' or 'Mystery'. Books can also be written in first or third person perspectives, but I think the argument I put for FPS vs. TPS was good enough before (FPS and TPS may play differently, but that doesn't have any effect on the genre of each game). The sticking point seems to be the term 'shooter'... which in book terms I guess would be more of a literary device (e.g. juxtaposition) that can be used across genre without otherwise effecting it.

 

To ask you a question or two: Do you consider Deus Ex to be an FPS or not? I believe it's possible to go through most of that game without firing, but to me that doesn't stop it being an FPS.
Battalion Wars to me is an Action-Strategy game by genre, but does that stop it being a TPS?


I'm not sure why we're having this debate if you don't consider 'FPS' a genre.

If you want to lable every single game that has some sort of projectile weopon and is viewed from the character's 1st person perspective as an FPS, then I guess the term FPS is secondary to you since the main genre of the title isn't contained therein. In fact, you should then lable almost all story driven games as FPS or TPS since that's how they play. I don't like what you'Re doing.

Respect for finishing all three. They were majestic.

Well in my first reply that's what I was saying (on reading it back I think I could have been more clear though). And I wouldn't say I consider it secondary to the genre, more like seperated from. And I wouldn't lable all first person games with projectiles as FPS.... the 's' is still important and has to be a major part of the gameplay for me to consider it a shooter. You can shoot from FP perspective in Endless Ocean 2, but that isn't an FPS. the Primes main story has you shooting at things almost as much as the more usual style FPS in normal gameplay areas... then in boss fights it's almost continual firing for 5 minutes.

And yes, they are majestic... MP3 was the first I played and I literally sat for 5 minutes listening to the beautiful music in the main menu before I started a game file. And when I first visited SkyTown I spent half the time just looking around from the outdoor platforms.



Lafiel on 08 March 2012

that's easy, it's Half-Life
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oh.. it's not even an option ...



Netyaroze on 08 March 2012
trasharmdsister12 said:

With Half-life you have a series that presents its story by making it so entrenched in the gameplay. You’re rarely at a loss of control for your character and the story is told to you by the characters, environments and events around you. The shooting is fantastic, the AI and enemy design is incredibly varied, the art and tech make it absurdly apparent that they were designed with the vision of effectively communicating a story, the environments constantly change and the combat mechanics are the most varied to this day. I can’t think of a single other FPS that does shooting combat so well but also throws in bizarre weapons with their own uses like the crowbar, gravity gun, and antlion bugbait. You can literally control another race during parts of the game! These weapon oddities also pave way for something really rare in shooters: puzzles. Yes, Half Life has puzzles. They aren’t the most complicated or involved, but they’re used very well to switch up the pace of the game. Finally, the audio is just icing on the cake. The ambient sounds can make a horizon feel warm and welcoming while squeals and cracks make Ravenholm one of the most unsettling locales in gaming history. And when the music kicks in you just find yourself helplessly grinning.

 

You perfectly summed up why I love Half-Life