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archbrix on 01 March 2012
VGKing said:

The price point is most likely true. It won't fly off shelves at $300 though.
I think $250 is the perfect price point for a Nintendo console.

Oh, it will definitely fly off shelves at $300 with the right software.  The PS2 did exceptionally well at that launch price (still holds the record here in the States for the biggest first day opening for a console).  Granted, it also featured DVD playback, but its launch lineup was pretty lackluster.  All WiiU needs is the right games.



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NightDragon83 on 01 March 2012
Mr Khan said:
NightDragon83 said:
Mr Khan said:
odellwwww said:
Hope they have different bundles at launch at different price points ie a 4gb standard system at lower price...that's if the system has changed and will actually have an internal hard drive. Still not sure what nintendo is planning in releasing a hd console without an included hardrive.

Not catering to the whims of the vocal minority. Saves you money and really doesn't hurt you.

Although they are catering to the whims of the vocal minority anyway by restoring retro controls, so it does get a little vexing...

Restoring "retro controls"?

 

Oh... you mean like THESE retro controls???

Yeah baby... let's party like it's 1985 all over again!  Who needs things like dual analog sticks and pressure sensitive triggers when you can have a good old fashioned 8-way D-pad and a whopping 2 buttons!

You merely reinforce my argument. The versitility of what the Wii remote could do in one setting (especially when combined with Nunchuk) makes the retro SNES derivatives used today look quite obsolete. The U Pad is a step in the SNES-derivative direction as well.

And the U Pad ISN'T versatile?  Traditional, touch screen AND motion controls more advanced than what a standalone Wiimote is capable of, as opposed to the Wiimote itself which requires one of several attachments or peripherals to play the majority of games in the Wii's library.

And you mock the other current controllers as "retro SNES derivatives", yet you people just can't seem to be able to cope with these so-called retro derivatives if your lives depended on it.  It seems like the only vocal minority in the gaming world is the one pleading Nintendo to not make the standard controls for their games any more complex than 2 buttons or simple "waggle" or basic motion controls.  God forbid you people have to use something other than a gimmicky plastic wheel to play the next console iteration of Mario Kart.

Whatsamatta... using a thumb stick to turn and shoulder buttons to powerslide just like all those other versions of Mario Kart you were forced to play with those retro derivative controllers is too hard for ya?



On 2/24/13, MB1025 said:
You know I was always wondering why no one ever used the dollar sign for $ony, but then I realized they have no money so it would be pointless.

happydolphin on 01 March 2012
archbrix said:
VGKing said:

The price point is most likely true. It won't fly off shelves at $300 though.
I think $250 is the perfect price point for a Nintendo console.

Oh, it will definitely fly off shelves at $300 with the right software.  The PS2 did exceptionally well at that launch price (still holds the record here in the States for the biggest first day opening for a console).  Granted, it also featured DVD playback, but its launch lineup was pretty lackluster.  All WiiU needs is the right games.

Another point in favor of PS2 was that it was riding off the huge success of the PS1. 100M sales at the time was a ginormeous feat. Plus impeccable marketing and brand power. Nintendo is doing very well post DS/Wii, but is still a disputed winner this gen, since PS360 together beat it, and a large segment is not under its banner, So, it's way under the PS1's power, and way below what the big N is capable of, and what it's once been (NES).



KungKras on 01 March 2012

299 is what it should cost at the most for me to ever be interrested in it.
That and it has to continue the Wii promise of motion controls transforming gaming.



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Mr Khan on 01 March 2012
NightDragon83 said:
Mr Khan said:

You merely reinforce my argument. The versitility of what the Wii remote could do in one setting (especially when combined with Nunchuk) makes the retro SNES derivatives used today look quite obsolete. The U Pad is a step in the SNES-derivative direction as well.

And the U Pad ISN'T versatile?  Traditional, touch screen AND motion controls more advanced than what a standalone Wiimote is capable of, as opposed to the Wiimote itself which requires one of several attachments or peripherals to play the majority of games in the Wii's library.

And you mock the other current controllers as "retro SNES derivatives", yet you people just can't seem to be able to cope with these so-called retro derivatives if your lives depended on it.  It seems like the only vocal minority in the gaming world is the one pleading Nintendo to not make the standard controls for their games any more complex than 2 buttons or simple "waggle" or basic motion controls.  God forbid you people have to use something other than a gimmicky plastic wheel to play the next console iteration of Mario Kart.

Whatsamatta... using a thumb stick to turn and shoulder buttons to powerslide just like all those other versions of Mario Kart you were forced to play with those retro derivative controllers is too hard for ya?

No. I lived with the GameCube and was quite content at the time. However, i wish to see Nintendo succeed and i believe they will only get there by aggressively pushing the Wii U as an extension of the Wii, and not as a concession to everything that wasn't the Wii.



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superchunk on 01 March 2012
NightDragon83 said:
superchunk said:

@ those arguing about a wiimote/nunchuk in the box.

Its going to happen. It costs Nintendo probably less than $10 to produce a wiimote/nunchuk combo. It will have plenty of games with multiple control options and will help push multiplayer in the built-in game that will include those tech games from the E3 demos.

There will be a new console, new tablet controller, game to push hardware similar to how Wii sports worked, wiimote/nunchuk.

Aren't you the guy who keeps saying that M$ will unveil the NextBox at this year's E3 and that it's coming before the end of the year?


lol I figured I had a 60/40 shot at that when I made the bet. Months later its more like 30/70 against me. But my sig is still 100% right and I will be right on this too.



happydolphin on 01 March 2012
Mr Khan said:
NightDragon83 said:
Mr Khan said:
 

You merely reinforce my argument. The versitility of what the Wii remote could do in one setting (especially when combined with Nunchuk) makes the retro SNES derivatives used today look quite obsolete. The U Pad is a step in the SNES-derivative direction as well.

And the U Pad ISN'T versatile?  Traditional, touch screen AND motion controls more advanced than what a standalone Wiimote is capable of, as opposed to the Wiimote itself which requires one of several attachments or peripherals to play the majority of games in the Wii's library.

And you mock the other current controllers as "retro SNES derivatives", yet you people just can't seem to be able to cope with these so-called retro derivatives if your lives depended on it.  It seems like the only vocal minority in the gaming world is the one pleading Nintendo to not make the standard controls for their games any more complex than 2 buttons or simple "waggle" or basic motion controls.  God forbid you people have to use something other than a gimmicky plastic wheel to play the next console iteration of Mario Kart.

Whatsamatta... using a thumb stick to turn and shoulder buttons to powerslide just like all those other versions of Mario Kart you were forced to play with those retro derivative controllers is too hard for ya?

No. I lived with the GameCube and was quite content at the time. However, i wish to see Nintendo succeed and i believe they will only get there by aggressively pushing the Wii U as an extension of the Wii, and not as a concession to everything that wasn't the Wii.

If the revolution went back to the drawing board, I don't see why the WiiU can't, and in the process, make a more faithful bridge to its traditional controls. If Wii bridged to S/NES via versatility, then WiiU bridges to N64/cube by the same effect, being a gen more relevant.

As an even stronger argument, what Wii failed to achieve with the classic controller, the WiiU achieves so much more elegantly, offering even double versatility as it bridges to both N64/Cube and S/NES.

MInd you I don't advocate scrapping the Wii, and WiiMote back compatibilty more than suits the need.



Zappykins on 01 March 2012

I will be surprised if it's that low. Especially considering that it's only $50 dollars more than the 3DS debut (but that didn't work so well did it.)

Maybe that’s just the console itself (for people that already have Wii’s and Wiimotes, Nunchucks, Balance Board, etc.) It might, but I would be surprised if it included the tablet controller too. So a ‘regular’ retail version with an the tablet controller a wiimote and other bells and whistles would be more.

We will probably have to wait a few more months before we find out.



 

Really not sure I see any point of Consol over PC's since Kinect, Wii and other alternative ways to play have been abandoned. 

Top 50 'most fun' game list coming soon!

 

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Mr Khan on 01 March 2012
happydolphin said:
Mr Khan said:

No. I lived with the GameCube and was quite content at the time. However, i wish to see Nintendo succeed and i believe they will only get there by aggressively pushing the Wii U as an extension of the Wii, and not as a concession to everything that wasn't the Wii.

If the revolution went back to the drawing board, I don't see why the WiiU can't, and in the process, make a more faithful bridge to its traditional controls. If Wii bridged to S/NES via versatility, then WiiU bridges to N64/cube by the same effect, being a gen more relevant.

As an even stronger argument, what Wii failed to achieve with the classic controller, the WiiU achieves so much more elegantly, offering even double versatility as it bridges to both N64/Cube and S/NES.

MInd you I don't advocate scrapping the Wii, and WiiMote back compatibilty more than suits the need.

Stop and think about that for a second. Why would anyone want to bridge back to the N64/GameCube?



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happydolphin on 01 March 2012
Mr Khan said:
happydolphin said:
Mr Khan said:
 

No. I lived with the GameCube and was quite content at the time. However, i wish to see Nintendo succeed and i believe they will only get there by aggressively pushing the Wii U as an extension of the Wii, and not as a concession to everything that wasn't the Wii.

If the revolution went back to the drawing board, I don't see why the WiiU can't, and in the process, make a more faithful bridge to its traditional controls. If Wii bridged to S/NES via versatility, then WiiU bridges to N64/cube by the same effect, being a gen more relevant.

As an even stronger argument, what Wii failed to achieve with the classic controller, the WiiU achieves so much more elegantly, offering even double versatility as it bridges to both N64/Cube and S/NES.

MInd you I don't advocate scrapping the Wii, and WiiMote back compatibilty more than suits the need.

Stop and think about that for a second. Why would anyone want to bridge back to the N64/GameCube?

Good question, but the failure of the N64, or even the Gamecube go way beyond SW, even HW content, you should know that! The PS1/2 did not go the way of the Wii, yet sold a shton, so what happened there, was it the casuals that helped that happen? Also, the HD twins are now at almost 120M sold! Trad vs casual, really is that the question, or is that simply a new question? Trad has an intrinsic value, despite the failure of N64/Cube.

Also, keep in mind, the Wii brought the following differences:

 

  • A new image.
  • A new direction (in the home arena) of launching with the weaker system.
  • A new affordability (for its home console)
  • A bundled game at launch.
On top of the obvious hardware and SW changes. These are also important factors in the discussion, and could've applied to a trad direction as well. However, since Sony seemed undisputed king, Nintendo thought they needed to fight on another turf (hence the blue ocean). Sadly that wasn't completely true, as MS has proven (thanks mostly to good decisions on their part and poor ones on Sony's part).