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AWESOME SALES 87 24.30%
 
GREAT SALES 160 44.69%
 
MEH SALES 91 25.42%
 
WTF SALES 18 5.03%
 
Total:356
Lanceuppercut said:
Euphoria14 said:
Lanceuppercut said:
Weak North American numbers for FEB+week 1.

Much better Euro numbers than I expected.

It launched lower than 3DS worldwide though. If it can't match what the 3DS was doing at $250 I doubt it's going to have any sort of legs. I expect a fairly rapid decline in NA/PAL sales much like what we saw in Japan.


I don't understand this logic. You really expect a successor to a handheld that sold 21M in the US to open the same as a handheld that sold 55M in the US, not to mention expect a 21M handheld in EU to sell the same as a handheld that sold 51M in EU. Also do not forget you are expecting a handheld that sold 19M in Japan to sell the same as a handheld that sold 33M.

You expected the same opening for a 73M handheld successor to that of a 151M handheld's successor.

 

The fact that they are even close at opening week  says a lot.

That's completely nonsensical. You can't just cite last generation totals and expect them to translate. Just ask Sony with the PS3, Atari with the 5200, Nintendo with the Gamecube (and 3DS for that matter), or SEGA with the Saturn.

Vita had the worst opening between the PSP, DS, 3DS, and Vita. Opening worse than the 3DS is a bad sign because the 3DS was being sold at a profit but still needed an 80 dollar price drop plus a flood of big titles from September onward (Star Fox, Mario Kart 7, Super Mario 3D Land, Sonic Generations, Pokemon Rumble Blast, Monster Hunter 3G, Resident Evil Revelations) to survive.

Sony is, by most accounts, selling the Vita at a loss or at best breaking even. Further, the Vita's announced lineup has nothing that will push hardware remotely as well as Mario Kart, Monster Hunter, or Mario 3D. 3DS launch was considered a failure and Sony has fallen short of that.

If you don't think Vita is headed for Price Drop Central you've got another thing coming. And no, this is not me being a doomsayer. This is me giving a reasonable assessment of the situation based on common sense and facts.


PS3 has still the record for biggest opening ever in Europe. In US and Japan it was severely supply constrained during first weeks. Of course after that script didn't go how Sony would have wanted but PS3 had very healthy opening despite the price because it was successor to PS2. 3DS had kinda weak opening considering it was successor to DS.



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well i had 2 ww fwk predictions and i made them both in man bear pigs europe thread for the lol! so i was 400K off on the second prediction.

also, i don't mind being overly optimistic, so i stand by the prediction i made in both threads although they were for the lol.



Anything above 1 million is great!

Lets be honest, handhelds are dying. Unless its your phone too. So for a dedicated portable gaming system, albiet it does do other things as well, this is wonderful. If it stays above 500k til the the November/December/January holidays then a $50-$100 price cut gives it a huge boost. Most likely the $50



Decent start for the PSV.

The main goal for sony now would be to keep the early adopters happy and help spread good word of mouth for the system. Hopefully some big games coming soon, that are must buys to spur on sales going forward. And lastly, sony need to iron out all the kinks in the system asap! They need to avoid small problems becoming big and no bad publicity hopefully!

I must say though im pleasantly surprised by the opening i though it would be much worse..



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Oh well. Let's see the gap with 3DS in 2 years. Then we should know if Sony has a winner or not.



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Ethomaz can you add some more options to the poll like "Average sales" or "Decent sales", "respectable sales" etc. None of those options capture how i feel about the opening, even though as i state above i was surprised by the numbers i stil think this is a mediocre opening



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Lanceuppercut said:
Euphoria14 said:
Lanceuppercut said:
Weak North American numbers for FEB+week 1.

Much better Euro numbers than I expected.

It launched lower than 3DS worldwide though. If it can't match what the 3DS was doing at $250 I doubt it's going to have any sort of legs. I expect a fairly rapid decline in NA/PAL sales much like what we saw in Japan.


I don't understand this logic. You really expect a successor to a handheld that sold 21M in the US to open the same as a handheld that sold 55M in the US, not to mention expect a 21M handheld in EU to sell the same as a handheld that sold 51M in EU. Also do not forget you are expecting a handheld that sold 19M in Japan to sell the same as a handheld that sold 33M.

You expected the same opening for a 73M handheld successor to that of a 151M handheld's successor.

 

The fact that they are even close at opening week  says a lot.

That's completely nonsensical. You can't just cite last generation totals and expect them to translate. Just ask Sony with the PS3, Atari with the 5200, Nintendo with the Gamecube (and 3DS for that matter), or SEGA with the Saturn.

Vita had the worst opening between the PSP, DS, 3DS, and Vita. Opening worse than the 3DS is a bad sign because the 3DS was being sold at a profit but still needed an 80 dollar price drop plus a flood of big titles from September onward (Star Fox, Mario Kart 7, Super Mario 3D Land, Sonic Generations, Pokemon Rumble Blast, Monster Hunter 3G, Resident Evil Revelations) to survive.

Sony is, by most accounts, selling the Vita at a loss or at best breaking even. Further, the Vita's announced lineup has nothing that will push hardware remotely as well as Mario Kart, Monster Hunter, or Mario 3D. 3DS launch was considered a failure and Sony has fallen short of that.

If you don't think Vita is headed for Price Drop Central you've got another thing coming. And no, this is not me being a doomsayer. This is me giving a reasonable assessment of the situation based on common sense and facts.

So my view is nonsense because I am using the past generation and brand appeal but it is not nonsense for you to use the 3DS sales and it's lack of software for the first 6 months and assume that based on that the Vita will do the same?

If you say so.

 

It also isn't nonsense to believe that PS3 only survived the terrible launch it had ($600 price and lack of games) based entirely on the fact that it became a huge brand name in the gaming space and was the market leader the previous (2) generations.

There is a reason most use the past to help predict how things will turn out, not to mention use the past to provide reasonable estimates on how something may or may not launch. You seriously going to sit here and say it was expected for PSV to launch similar to 3DS numbers or even above them?



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I'm conflicted on how I feel about the launch numbers...

On one hand, it sold over 300k in all three regions and fell just shy of what a Nintendo handheld did in its first week (about 140k less).

However, on the other hand, Vita's launch numbers had the benefit of the holidays in Japan, had far better launch games, and still didn't top 3DS' numbers at the same price.

Very curious to see how it does in the coming weeks.  If the numbers drop in the West the way they did in Japan, Vita's in for a very rough time with no WW killer app even announced so far, no price drop in sight, and a 15m+ lead for its competitor.



Much better than I thought, as a fan of actually portable gaming. I am happy about this. I dont want to live in a world where i have to do my portable gaming on a damn phone, so true gamers should be happy about these system's well being IMHO. That goes for 3ds as well, maybe even more so